T
thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 21, 2011 4:33pm
Not sure Edgar is a guy you send down to AAA to get his swing back. He is a guy you try and trade for whatever or DFA.
I92---I agree. I think Votto is a legit 320-340 hitter. His ribeye steaks will depend alot on who is in front and behind him because Votto is a very, very clutch hitter unlike many other guys. Last year will be his best season of his career, and there really isnt anything wrong with that. It was an amazing season but I just dont think we will see him hit 30+ and 100+ on a routine basis....but then aagin......not many players do. He will be a very solid guy in the middle of the lineup for a long time. Unsure if he will put up MVP numbers again tho
I92---I agree. I think Votto is a legit 320-340 hitter. His ribeye steaks will depend alot on who is in front and behind him because Votto is a very, very clutch hitter unlike many other guys. Last year will be his best season of his career, and there really isnt anything wrong with that. It was an amazing season but I just dont think we will see him hit 30+ and 100+ on a routine basis....but then aagin......not many players do. He will be a very solid guy in the middle of the lineup for a long time. Unsure if he will put up MVP numbers again tho
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 21, 2011 4:45pm
HIs amount of walks will not go down and he's getting better at putting it into play.....his OPS will always be solid I bet and he could have a 33 HR, 30 2B, 120 RBI season batting .327......put that on a team that makes the playoffs and you have an MVP candidate
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 21, 2011 4:46pm
Obviously I am being a little overdramatic/sarcastic.
But in no way shape or form should Edgar Renteria be hitting in a situation like last night. Not this year.
But in no way shape or form should Edgar Renteria be hitting in a situation like last night. Not this year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 21, 2011 4:49pm
Dusty has not been the besty at putting PHers in there.....Saturday when we were down there he had used everyone but Gomes (Hanigan doesn't count per Dusty stupid reasoning)by the 8th inning.....had we gone to extras we had nothing.
This is also the guy who sits a player who just went 3-5 or a player that is 7/15 off of a pitcher
This is also the guy who sits a player who just went 3-5 or a player that is 7/15 off of a pitcher
T
thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 21, 2011 4:55pm
Not a fan of Edgar diarrehea but he was 3-9 against Mariano in his career and you know how managers love to look at those numbers.wildcats20;808908 wrote:Obviously I am being a little overdramatic/sarcastic.
But in no way shape or form should Edgar Renteria be hitting in a situation like last night. Not this year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 21, 2011 4:57pm
^^^they say that but sometimes I wonder if Dusty ever looks at numbers...or stupid things overrule the numbers
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 21, 2011 4:59pm
thavoice;808922 wrote:Not a fan of Edgar diarrehea but he was 3-9 against Mariano in his career and you know how managers love to look at those numbers.
And Gomes was 2/6. Same average.
T
thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 21, 2011 5:04pm
wildcats20;808927 wrote:And Gomes was 2/6. Same average.
True, in a little smaller sample size. They did mention it during the FSO telecast (didnt waste my time listenin to ESPNs crew) and they mentioned how Gomex is a hacker, a HR guy, and Rivera doesnt give up HR's as to why maybe he chose E-R over Gomes.
I am not backing Baker..I am just throwing up possible reasons why he put in him over Gomes. I could easily see Rivera throw that cutter way away from Gomes and have him whiff
D
dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 21, 2011 5:26pm
pretty sure Hernandez is a .300 hitter off Mo also in a decent sample size.
Weather is terrible here, highways are a mess. If this game starts on time the stadium will be 25% full, there are 1 hr delays to get across the river both ways.
Weather is terrible here, highways are a mess. If this game starts on time the stadium will be 25% full, there are 1 hr delays to get across the river both ways.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 21, 2011 5:26pm
Game tonight is postponed til tomorrow night. Will be the 2nd half of a day/night doube dip.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 21, 2011 5:30pm
TT, I was sort of kidding around with the OSU comments
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 21, 2011 5:56pm
Bummer. Was looking forward to watching the game tonight
D
dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 21, 2011 7:44pm
This blows with no game on. Not sure what it's like at the stadium but I'm 20miles north and since 6pm no rain, its been windy but the sun has actually been peaking out most of the time.
Just had a text convo with a friend in Louisville who knows some people within the organization. He said Homer looks decent tonight, Cozart and Sappelt led off the bottom of first with back to back doubles. Also said LeCure isn't there, already in Cincy and will be activated tomorrow between games.
Just had a text convo with a friend in Louisville who knows some people within the organization. He said Homer looks decent tonight, Cozart and Sappelt led off the bottom of first with back to back doubles. Also said LeCure isn't there, already in Cincy and will be activated tomorrow between games.
M
mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jun 21, 2011 8:06pm
dave;809102 wrote:Also said LeCure isn't there, already in Cincy and will be activated tomorrow between games.
Who do you suppose LeCure will replace on the 25 man?
D
dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 21, 2011 8:11pm
Horst or Fisher for sure, although I'd prefer Arrendondo so he can learn how not to walk the leadoff batter every time. If Chapman pitches well tonight I think he'll be back Friday. If I had to guess I'd say Horst goes down tomorrow and Fisher Friday. If Fisher pitches a couple innings tomorrow afternoon he'd probably go first. Lets hope that doesn't happen because it would mean a loss.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 21, 2011 8:20pm
SportsAndLady;808480 wrote:Don't be a hypocrite now, TT....I mean, you are an Ohio State fan.
Indiana Univ. takes pictures of their home games with Ohio State and uses it in their football programs and puts the pics up on their websites, facility walls, etc. because of so many OSU fans who go to their games..wearing almost the same color as IU red.
That is ONLY during years when Purdue game is on the road. Otherwise, they use the Purdue home game, cause it sells out as well, lol
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 21, 2011 8:24pm
I'm guessing it will be Horst. I'm no Fisher fan, but Dusty seems to trust him more. I suspect either Bailey or Chapman will replace FisherHorst or Fisher for sure, although I'd prefer Arrendondo so he can learn how not to walk the leadoff batter every time. If Chapman pitches well tonight I think he'll be back Friday. If I had to guess I'd say Horst goes down tomorrow and Fisher Friday. If Fisher pitches a couple innings tomorrow afternoon he'd probably go first. Lets hope that doesn't happen because it would mean a loss.
D
dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 21, 2011 8:30pm
I sure hope either Wood or Volquez goes down when Homer comes back, going to the pen will not help them. Just look what happened to Leake.
Wouldn't surprise me though with all the poor decisions that have been made so far.
Wouldn't surprise me though with all the poor decisions that have been made so far.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 21, 2011 8:37pm
I think at this point Wood is more likely to go down than Volquez. Wood recovered nicely last night from a tough first inning, but he has been pretty inconsistent thus far
D
dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 21, 2011 8:43pm
I agree. Personally I hope DTrain gets a shot, some think he's got nothing left but I don't see why they have him around if they don't plan on giving him a chance. Too many average pitchers.
D
dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 21, 2011 8:44pm
Anyone going tomorrow? might head down and scalp, not sure which game though.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 21, 2011 8:48pm
I considered going down for the early game.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 21, 2011 9:03pm
Buddy of mine had an extra ticket from his boss for tomorrow, but of course I have to work.
D
dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 21, 2011 9:29pm
Homer with a much better game tonight, he'll be back next week. Chapman with a perfect inning on 13 pitches. He'll be back Friday.
edit: Homer would pitch Sunday maybe
edit: Homer would pitch Sunday maybe
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 21, 2011 10:00pm
How do they work that out tomorrow, having two games? Double header, or clear stadium?