like_that
                                                                            
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:11pm
                            
                        
                                lol, non is never going to be able to shake off that idiotic comment until he admits his comment was in fact idiotic.  Gotta love when idiotic comments come back to bite people in the ass.
                            
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:15pm
                            
                        
                                BRF,  welcome the Rockies to town with a thread.  Nice sweep on your Pirates thread.
                            
                        Non
                                                                            
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:17pm
                            
                        Commander of Awesome;806967 wrote:Considering you have to watch the pirates I'm surprised you know what a good pitching staff is, since according to you, you know more about sports bc your team is better.
I'm in the minority because I still watch baseball quite a bit even being a fan of a lousy team. I'm an exception.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:19pm
                            
                        Non;806973 wrote:I'm in the minority because I still watch baseball quite a bit even being a fan of a lousy team. I'm an exception.
Nice spin, I would create an exception too if one of my comments made myself look like an idiot.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:23pm
                            
                        like_that;806975 wrote:Nice spin, I would create an exception too if one of my comments made myself look like an idiot.
That wasn't a spin. Overall the Pirates have lost a lot of fans but that doesn't mean there aren't some who still follow the team and baseball. Same as with any team.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:25pm
                            
                        Non;806980 wrote:That wasn't a spin. Overall the Pirates have lost a lot of fans but that doesn't mean there aren't some who still follow the team and baseball. Same as with any team.
You can still have fans, but the fact of the matter is the team sucks, so that means that fans are not knowledgable at all. This is your way of thinking, not mine.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:27pm
                            
                        
                                When the Indians were hot during the mid to late 90s they had a lot more fans than the Pirates but because of that success it generated more interest and with that came knowledge of the league overall. Compared to a dwindling fan base where many lost interest. It was flipped for a brief period from 1990-92 when the Pirates were having success and the Indians were still at the old stadium and nobody went to the games.
                            
                        ytownfootball
                                                                            
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:29pm
                            
                        
                                interest does not equal knowledge, but whatever
                            
                        Non
                                                                            
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:29pm
                            
                        like_that;806983 wrote:You can still have fans, but the fact of the matter is the team sucks, so that means that fans are not knowledgable at all. This is your way of thinking, not mine.
No you're just picking out what you want and repeating it over and over. I explained this so many times. It's not that difficult to understand my point.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:29pm
                            
                        Non;806985 wrote:When the Indians were hot during the mid to late 90s they had a lot more fans than the Pirates but because of that success it generated more interest and with that came knowledge of the league overall. Compared to a dwindling fan base where many lost interest. It was flipped for a brief period from 1990-92 when the Pirates were having success and the Indians were still at the old stadium and nobody went to the games.
You're missing the point.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:30pm
                            
                        Non;806985 wrote:When the Indians were hot during the mid to late 90s they had a lot more fans than the Pirates but because of that success it generated more interest and with that came knowledge of the league overall. Compared to a dwindling fan base where many lost interest. It was flipped for a brief period from 1990-92 when the Pirates were having success and the Indians were still at the old stadium and nobody went to the games.
Ok? What does that have to do with the fact that your team is not good, so that means your fans are not knowledgeable in the sport of baseball. Once again, this is your way of thinking not mine.
No where in this conversation have I even mentioned the amount of fans. You can have 1000000000 more fans than Cleveland does, but if we go by your theory, those fans have no knowledge of baseball because the Pirates are not good. Lol just admit your comment was idiotic, and this will all end.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:34pm
                            
                        ytownfootball;806988 wrote:interest does not equal knowledge, but whatever
yeah it does, in some cases
take hockey for example, I used this example last time
Detroit Red Wings vs. Florida Panthers
or college football Ohio State vs. Indiana
Detroit and Ohio State have a lot more fans because of the winning tradition that leads to more fans being interested in watching the sport, other games taking place, buying the magazines and so on...and with that comes more knowledgeable fans
I'm not saying it's automatic in every situation. Obviously there are strong fans for every team. That was never my point.
                                        
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:35pm
                            
                        
                                LOL at the thinking that only winning teams have knowledgeable fans....just more of that elitist attitude some have here.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:38pm
                            
                        Non;806994 wrote:Ohio State have a lot more fans because of the winning tradition that leads to more fans being interested in watching the sport, other games taking place, buying the magazines and so on...and with that comes more knowledgeable fans
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Horrible example. OSU has one of the most delusional fan bases in college football.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:40pm
                            
                        like_that;806991 wrote:Ok? What does that have to do with the fact that your team is not good, so that means your fans are not knowledgeable in the sport of baseball. Once again, this is your way of thinking not mine.
No where in this conversation have I even mentioned the amount of fans. You can have 1000000000 more fans than Cleveland does, but if we go by your theory, those fans have no knowledge of baseball because the Pirates are not good. Lol just admit your comment was idiotic, and this will all end.
You can be a Browns fan and be more knowledgeable than a Steelers fan that lives next door.
And you can be a Pirates fan and be more knowledgeable than an Indians fan.
There's no question about it. I'm not denying that.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:41pm
                            
                        BR1986FB;806998 wrote:Horrible example. OSU has one of the most delusional fan bases in college football.
They're crazy and passionate but still many fans live and breath college football and know about the recruiting and every little detail about the sport.
There's not even close to the amount of those fans for some other schools.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:44pm
                            
                        fortfan;806995 wrote:LOL at the thinking that only winning teams have knowledgeable fans....just more of that elitist attitude some have here.
I don't think only winning teams have knowledgeable fans. That's not accurate.
                                        
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:44pm
                            
                        Non;807002 wrote:They're crazy and passionate but still many fans live and breath college football and know about the recruiting and every little detail about the sport.
There's not even close to the amount of those fans for some other schools.
I'll give you the "passionate" and "crazy" but I've seen some delusional/dumb shit...."if Ginn doesn't get injured in that NC game, we win !!!"
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:46pm
                            
                        Are you referring to me, because if so, you might want to read my whole post. I am mocking Non, for his idiotic theory he posted himself during football season.fortfan;806995 wrote:LOL at the thinking that only winning teams have knowledgeable fans....just more of that elitist attitude some have here.
If you are not, then +1.
Non;806999 wrote:You can be a Browns fan and be more knowledgeable than a Steelers fan that lives next door.
And you can be a Pirates fan and be more knowledgeable than an Indians fan.
There's no question about it. I'm not denying that.
So, then why during football season did you insist on posting your idiotic theory in Cleveland threads? Oh, because you were trolling? Ok.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:52pm
                            
                        BR1986FB;807005 wrote:I'll give you the "passionate" and "crazy" but I've seen some delusional/dumb ****...."if Ginn doesn't get injured in that NC game, we win !!!"
Yeah but there's still enough fans that even with the many who are passionate, crazy and delusional there are still many more knowledgeable ones than your average program.
I guess we'll disagree on this.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:52pm
                            
                        
                                Sorry I'm a little late on the celebration, my fellow Tribe brethren!
How about a Glittering Wahoo for the Sweep?

Look for the next thread coming up!
Go Tribe!
                        How about a Glittering Wahoo for the Sweep?

Look for the next thread coming up!
Go Tribe!
Non
                                                                            
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                                Jun 19, 2011 7:55pm
                            
                        like_that;807007 wrote:Are you referring to me, because if so, you might want to read my whole post. I am mocking Non, for his idiotic theory he posted himself during football season.
If you are not, then +1.
So, then why during football season did you insist on posting your idiotic theory in Cleveland threads? Oh, because you were trolling? Ok.
I think it may have been before a Cleveland-Pittsburgh game but I can't remember back that far.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 8:02pm
                            
                        
                                Just got in to hear the good news.  btw, sports knowledge and fandom in orlando is a joke....they literally know less about their teams than I do. So sad when you consider that they have some pretty decent teams to root for.
Go tribe!
                        Go tribe!
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                                Jun 19, 2011 8:03pm
                            
                        Non;806994 wrote:yeah it does, in some cases
take hockey for example, I used this example last time
Detroit Red Wings vs. Florida Panthers
or college football Ohio State vs. Indiana
Detroit and Ohio State have a lot more fans because of the winning tradition that leads to more fans being interested in watching the sport, other games taking place, buying the magazines and so on...and with that comes more knowledgeable fans
I'm not saying it's automatic in every situation. Obviously there are strong fans for every team. That was never my point.
I don't equate knowledge to knowing who the hell #58 is or what position they play, that's casual fandom at best and bandwogoners at worst.
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                                Jun 19, 2011 8:14pm
                            
                        
                                New thread is up and running.
Nice chatting with you Pirate fans.
                        Nice chatting with you Pirate fans.