karen lotz;786188 wrote:But why would the guy lie about it? What can he possibly benefit from just throwing random names into the mix?

karen lotz;786188 wrote:But why would the guy lie about it? What can he possibly benefit from just throwing random names into the mix?

karen lotz;786188 wrote:But why would the guy lie about it? What can he possibly benefit from just throwing random names into the mix?

LJ;786173 wrote:I think people realize there could be trouble, but more like slap on the wrist trouble. There really is no credible sources and unless they can find the memoribilia that was supposedly traded, I don't think there will be anything more than possibly a "hey we are watching you, don't screw up" or maybe some other small sanctions, based merely on hearsay

karen lotz;786159 wrote:For Christ's sake lhs, did you not read the SI article or any of the thread? Klein was mentioned with 8 others who traded memorabilia for tats OR money. If he doesn't have tats, that doesn't automatically mean he wasn't involved. Same goes for the others you mentioned if they were listed among the 9.

WebFire;786212 wrote:We can only assume at this point that there are 0 credible sources. Just because they are druggies and hang out at tattoo parlors, doesn't mean the NCAA won't listen or investigate.

LJ;786214 wrote:and felons and anonymous

WebFire;786216 wrote:Of course they are felons. That is who they were hanging out with! That doesn't automatically dismiss the case.

LJ;786205 wrote:His math is off, it's 3% of scholarship players

Ty Webb;785717 wrote:You do realize marijuana is often referred to as dope right?

LJ;786205 wrote:His math is off, it's 3% of scholarship players

lhslep134;786213 wrote:How the hell is Tressel supposed to be in charge for what these kids do in their free time, ESPECIALLY if they don't have any prior troubles? The answer is he's not, but people like you lotz expect him too.

lhslep134;786213 wrote:I read it, and I think it's a bunch of witch hunting, using the testimony of not only sketchy people but also people who were in Tressel's doghouse (Rose, Small).

The information in no way shape or form should be considered anything more than questionable at best considering the sources.

If this was any other program (ie if players were in Brian Kelly's doghouse) and said the same thing, I would be saying the same thing. When you're recruiting players who play at such a high level you're going to get a few rotten ones who disregard what they were told (hey, those words came from Small's mouth) and commit violations anyways.

How the hell is Tressel supposed to be in charge for what these kids do in their free time, ESPECIALLY if they don't have any prior troubles? The answer is he's not, but people like you lotz expect him too.

Writerbuckeye;786225 wrote:28 out of 850 players (85 scholarship players over 10 years) -- so if I forgot to multiply by 100, I guess that would be 3 percent. At any rate, it's a ridiculously low number and doesn't show a widespread problem.

thedynasty1998;786220 wrote:Yea and that's not counting that many of the same guys are in the program for 4-5 years. There are only what, 20 new guys each year? The percentage is actually much higher.

Writerbuckeye;786225 wrote:28 out of 850 players (85 scholarship players over 10 years) -- so if I forgot to multiply by 100, I guess that would be 3 percent. At any rate, it's a ridiculously low number and doesn't show a widespread problem.

WebFire;786216 wrote:Of course they are felons. That is who they were hanging out with! That doesn't automatically dismiss the case.

Tiernan;786238 wrote:So what? They'll still win 10 games minimum and beat scUM and Fickell will be the next HC. Life as usual goes on and UM & ND fans will still be bitter little bitches cheering on their piss ant little pussy programs.