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Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM
Notice how Suh has by far the most 1st place votes(knowledgeable voters) yet has a very slim lead due to a lot of idiots leaving him off their ballot entirely. This is why the Heisman sucks.
Dec 7, 2009 4:51pm
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Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM
I really hope Suh wins.

Just because I hate how it always goes to a QB or RB and always from a great team.

It should go to the best player, period.
Dec 7, 2009 4:51pm
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Dec 7, 2009 4:52 PM
Suh is the most dominant player in the country. Damn near won the Texas game by himself. Should be his.
Dec 7, 2009 4:52pm
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Dec 7, 2009 4:56 PM
Ingram not in the top 3 is a joke.
Dec 7, 2009 4:56pm
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Dec 7, 2009 7:26 PM
ccrunner609 wrote: Not gonna happen. If he was the best player in the country he would of been on the board before the last game of the season. Now will he be the best NFL guy........by a long shot he will.
Did you just tune-in to the season this week? Suh won the fan poll on espn.com that has been going for weeks now. He has been getting articles and video segments on him, all claiming he should be getting heisman consideration, since very early in the season. He didn't just come out of nowhere this week with a big performance. He has been destroying teams all season long.
Dec 7, 2009 7:26pm
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Dec 7, 2009 7:34 PM
ccrunner609 wrote: ^^^He hasnt been on the national scene, Gameday, ESPN hasnt mentioned him all season when they cover college football. I watch alot and he hasnt gotten any play or enough of it.
Then this didn't happen, what 5? 6? weeks ago?

Dec 7, 2009 7:34pm
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Dec 8, 2009 6:52 AM
Ingram's performance this past weekend probably gained him votes as Tebow and McCoy had poor performances. What's sad is some of the voters won't remember the previous weekend when Ingram had a poor game and McCoy had great numbers against A&M.
Dec 8, 2009 6:52am
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Dec 8, 2009 11:11 AM
Last updated: 12/8/2009, 1:15 a.m. Pacific. 163 ballots, 403 votes.

name first second third ballots points Projected Proj%
M Ingram 33 43 26 102 211 1151 41.4%
T Gerhart 35 33 27 95 198 1104 39.7%
N Suh 53 21 22 96 223 1034 37.2%
C McCoy 22 29 30 81 154 869 31.3%
T Tebow 9 7 16 32 57 338 12.2%
Dec 8, 2009 11:11am
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Dec 8, 2009 6:08 PM
As of 5:02 PM, today:

1. Ingram, 41.4 percent, 1149 points (35 1st place votes)
2. Gerhart, 41.1 percent, 1149 points (40 1st place votes)
3. Suh, 36.8 percent, 1023 points (57 first place votes)
4. McCoy, 31.6 percent, 879 points (24 first place votes)
5. Tebow, 11.5 percent, 320 points (9 1st place votes)
Dec 8, 2009 6:08pm
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Dec 8, 2009 7:30 PM
This is such a joke. Suh with a clear lead in 1st place votes, but a bunch of 80 year olds can't spell his name so they left him off their ballots and it will cost him the trophy.

And who the hell is voting for Tebow? Those people should have their votes taken away from them in future years, because they clearly couldn't be bothered to do a 5 minute comparison before casting their ballots.
Dec 8, 2009 7:30pm
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Dec 8, 2009 8:21 PM
Here's a question. Why the hell was Tebow even invited to NYC? He's so far behind the other candidates that there's no chance he wins it.

Is there a certain percentage of votes that you need to have to be invited?

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Dec 8, 2009 8:21pm
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Dec 8, 2009 8:38 PM
As a former winner he'd be there anyway, regardless of his percentage. As far as an official invite though I'm not sure.
Dec 8, 2009 8:38pm
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Dec 8, 2009 9:02 PM
Sometimes they only invite 3 or 4 guys and it depends on how many votes each candidate received. I remember them mentioning some type of percentage in the past, but I'm not sure what it was, if it's set in stone, or if it varies from year to year.

Obviously Tebow will be there as a past winner, but I don't really think he should be one of the finalists for the award. If the projections by Stiff Arm Trophy are even remotely close, he's nowhere near the other candidates. I really hope this isn't a case of, "Tebow will be here anyway, so we might as well make him a finalist and include him in the show". I'm not really too worried about it, but it just seems a little odd to me.
Dec 8, 2009 9:02pm
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Dec 8, 2009 10:11 PM
On the ESPN newcast I watched this evening they were hyping on Tebow again. I guess maybe the crying Saturday might buy him a few extra votes
Dec 8, 2009 10:11pm
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Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM
The latest projection from 11pm last night.

#1 Mark Ingram 42.2% 1171 and 40 1st place votes
#2 Toby Gerhart 40.9% 1136 and 46 1st place votes
#3 Suh 37.8% 1051 and 67 1st place votes
#4 Colt McCoy 31.6% 879 and 29 1st place votes
#5 Tim Tebow 11.3% 314 and 11 1st place votes

This is with 208 ballots being turned in. It's starting to look like unless something unexpected happens that Ingram will win on Saturday.

On a side note, Tebow did win the Academic Heisman this year.
Dec 9, 2009 11:16am
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Dec 9, 2009 12:48 PM
I will not be one bit surprised if Teblow worms his way back into the trophy somehow. This guy has an uncanny ability to cloud people's minds into believing he is everything except what he really is. And that is he is the greatest 3 yd TD runner in history.
Dec 9, 2009 12:48pm
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King Curtis

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Dec 10, 2009 8:56 PM
The latest projection from 6:53 pm tonight

#1 Mark Ingram 1235 44.5% 55 1st place votes
#2 Toby Gerhart 1131 40.7% 52 1st place votes
#3 Suh 1102 39.7% 79 1st place votes
#4 Colt McCoy 856 30.8% 38 1st place votes
#5 Tim Tebow 280 10.1% 11 1st place votes
Dec 10, 2009 8:56pm
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Dec 10, 2009 9:20 PM
Gerhart is the man!!
Dec 10, 2009 9:20pm
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Dec 10, 2009 9:22 PM
Im beginning to think not enough weight is given to first place votes. Suh is killing it and is still 5% behind Ingram.
Dec 10, 2009 9:22pm
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Dec 11, 2009 12:53 AM
The trophy has been a colossal joke since 1997, which is about the time that ESPN decided that they wanted to see if they could influence the trophy going to someone who wasn't the best player in that year and wouldn't be able to compare to someone who happened to be a contemporary.
Dec 11, 2009 12:53am
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Dec 11, 2009 12:59 AM
Laley23 wrote: Im beginning to think not enough weight is given to first place votes. Suh is killing it and is still 5% behind Ingram.
Not only that, but if you look at some of the ballots that were placed, quite a few only used one vote! You're supposed to vote 1,2 and 3.
Dec 11, 2009 12:59am
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Dec 11, 2009 8:24 AM
name first second third ballots points Projected Proj%
M Ingram 62 79 40 181 384 1229 44.2%
T Gerhart 56 60 52 168 340 1129 40.6%
N Suh 87 34 42 163 371 1119 40.3%
C McCoy 41 46 46 133 261 858 30.9%
T Tebow 11 13 22 46 81 269 9.7%

Suh absolutely killing it in 1st place votes.
Dec 11, 2009 8:24am
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Dec 11, 2009 10:33 AM
Here's hoping Suh pulls out a victory...
Dec 11, 2009 10:33am
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Dec 11, 2009 10:54 AM
ccrunner609 wrote: Can someone fill me in on why TT is even going? I thought the Heisman had a clause that you werent invited if you werent within a certain ammount of points. I know he will be there anyway but I would rather see him sitting in the back then the front.
Not sure really. I think they normally only invite 4 players. This year it was 5, with TT obviously getting a sympathy invite as the 5th wheel.

I just think the media loves him. It's all they talk about. As much as they love him though his stats were in no way going to get him the heisman - even though they really, REALLY wanted to give it to him. So out of sympathy they give him a front row seat.
Dec 11, 2009 10:54am
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Dec 11, 2009 4:13 PM
The 2nd place race is what is going to be interesting.

It would be awesome if Suh could finish runnerup.

Its pretty clear that McCoy has zero chance unless something major happens.
Dec 11, 2009 4:13pm