pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Dec 2, 2011 5:51pm
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/jon-huntsman-skip-presidential-debate-moderated-donald-trump-201000365.html
Donald Trump now moderating Debates this month. This is quite pathetic honestly. The fact that Donald Trump has any pull at all with any politics is a travesty. Im glad Huntsman turned it down, hopefully others follow. It can be tricky because you don't want to miss out on getting on tv but this is pretty sad.
Donald Trump now moderating Debates this month. This is quite pathetic honestly. The fact that Donald Trump has any pull at all with any politics is a travesty. Im glad Huntsman turned it down, hopefully others follow. It can be tricky because you don't want to miss out on getting on tv but this is pretty sad.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 2, 2011 9:10pm
Que?QuakerOats;996652 wrote:Nice cut and paste job ......... almost laughable.
Get in the game.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Dec 2, 2011 9:40pm
The article as a whole is pretty balanced, but there is one quote that is completely over-the-top:
"Among longtime observers of Iowa politics, there remains considerable concern, privately expressed, that Paul might actually win the caucuses -- a result that could make the state irrelevant in future cycles."
If Paul wins Iowa, apparently it doesn't mean that people are behind his message, but rather that the entire state is irrelevant.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57335591-503544/in-iowa-the-ron-paul-factor-could-loom-large/
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"Among longtime observers of Iowa politics, there remains considerable concern, privately expressed, that Paul might actually win the caucuses -- a result that could make the state irrelevant in future cycles."
If Paul wins Iowa, apparently it doesn't mean that people are behind his message, but rather that the entire state is irrelevant.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57335591-503544/in-iowa-the-ron-paul-factor-could-loom-large/
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Dec 3, 2011 12:23am
Well, it IS flyover land.I Wear Pants;998546 wrote:If Paul wins Iowa, apparently it doesn't mean that people are behind his message, but rather that the entire state is irrelevant.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Dec 3, 2011 2:28pm
Herman Cain is out of the race. Hopefully after iowa and new hampshire , santorum, bachman and huntsman will all go too.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Dec 3, 2011 2:30pm
I wonder how many of Cain's votes will go to Paul. Although I have to admit, Paul might be a tough sell in the general election. Between his ideas being painted as crushing the poor (which they will), the lack of "presidential look" does influence a lot of ignorant voters.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 3, 2011 2:54pm
This can only be good news for Ron Paul. He'll get some more TV time during the debates at least.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Dec 4, 2011 1:01am
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Dec 4, 2011 3:54pm
Who is Vera Baker?
Shouldn't the media look this idividuial up?
Shouldn't the media look this idividuial up?
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Dec 4, 2011 6:00pm
Cain officially dropped out(not that he ever had a chance of winning anyway.) Newt's 15 minutes as the "frontrunner" will soon end, and then Republicans can start coming closer and closer to admitting the inevitable: Mitt Romney will be their nominee.
Spread All Day
Posts: 985
Dec 4, 2011 7:52pm
I know i'm late, but Ron Paul is the only logical choice for the GOP nod.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 4, 2011 8:18pm
Yep. Don't seeing it happening though.Spread All Day;1001680 wrote:I know i'm late, but Ron Paul is the only logical choice for the GOP nod.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Dec 4, 2011 10:58pm
Our system doesn't work if Paul isn't the nominee.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 4, 2011 11:25pm
I think the system sucks balls and will be the downfall of this country.I Wear Pants;1002206 wrote:Our system doesn't work if Paul isn't the nominee.
Hope this helps.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Dec 4, 2011 11:37pm
That's what I was getting at. If we're going to have a two party system we need to be able to choose from at least somewhat competent choices. Captain "I Campaign on a platform that a lot of people like and make a bunch of promises about transparency, ending ridiculous wars, and protecting freedoms but really I'm GWB in a black guy suit" and whatever schmuck the GOP is probably going to nominate don't count as "competent".WebFire;1002253 wrote:I think the system sucks balls and will be the downfall of this country.
Hope this helps.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Dec 5, 2011 12:25am
They don't even count as two parties, since they both do pretty much the same damn thing (though they'll tell you they're drastically different).I Wear Pants;1002280 wrote:That's what I was getting at. If we're going to have a two party system we need to be able to choose from at least somewhat competent choices. Captain "I Campaign on a platform that a lot of people like and make a bunch of promises about transparency, ending ridiculous wars, and protecting freedoms but really I'm GWB in a black guy suit" and whatever schmuck the GOP is probably going to nominate don't count as "competent".
believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 5, 2011 5:28am
Ever since the televised Nixon-Kennedy debate, sex appeal has become far more important to the American voter: Style over Substance. Lincoln would never have been elected if Hollyweird and television had been invented in the mid-1800's.gut;999081 wrote:I wonder how many of Cain's votes will go to Paul. Although I have to admit, Paul might be a tough sell in the general election. Between his ideas being painted as crushing the poor (which they will), the lack of "presidential look" does influence a lot of ignorant voters.
After the MSM tears into Paul, rest assured that either Newt or Romney will get the Repub nomination and then the MSM will once again go to bat for their Appointed One.
It's no longer about what's best for the country. It's about what sells.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Dec 5, 2011 4:02pm
Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Dec 5, 2011 4:37pm
Please explain Nixonbeliever;1002414 wrote:Ever since the televised Nixon-Kennedy debate, sex appeal has become far more important to the American voter: Style over Substance. Lincoln would never have been elected if Hollyweird and television had been invented in the mid-1800's.
It's no longer about what's best for the country. It's about what sells.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 5, 2011 5:29pm
Sex sells...not just for the POTUS position. I blame this phenomenon on women. We men can see through the BS.believer;1002414 wrote:Ever since the televised Nixon-Kennedy debate, sex appeal has become far more important to the American voter: Style over Substance. Lincoln would never have been elected if Hollyweird and television had been invented in the mid-1800's.
After the MSM tears into Paul, rest assured that either Newt or Romney will get the Repub nomination and then the MSM will once again go to bat for their Appointed One.
It's no longer about what's best for the country. It's about what sells.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Dec 5, 2011 6:16pm
Time to repeal the 19th Amendment!!Footwedge;1003296 wrote:Sex sells...not just for the POTUS position. I blame this phenomenon on women. We men can see through the BS.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 5, 2011 6:34pm
Vietnam and - well -Hubert H. Humphrey. Just sayin'.........Devils Advocate;1003234 wrote:Please explain Nixon
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Dec 7, 2011 10:28pm
For you Ronulans, Chris Christie is speaking like your leader - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHLTIfscaF8&feature=player_embedded
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Dec 7, 2011 11:29pm
If you don't think the war on drugs isn't working you should be committed. It's a god damned fact.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Dec 7, 2011 11:40pm
And the war on poverty, crime, illiteracy, and whatever the hell other domestic issue the feds want to make war on.I Wear Pants;1006737 wrote:If you don't think the war on drugs isn't working you should be committed. It's a god damned fact.