jhay78;1066405 wrote:The guy has tinkered around the edges of 9/11 trutherism, agreed with Osama bin Laden that our military presence in Saudi Arabia inspired most of the 9/11 hijackers, said that the Bush administration was "gleeful" after 9/11 because they had an excuse to invade Iraq. He's said he understands why Iran as a sovereign nation would want a nuclear bomb, but then says don't worry they aren't even close to getting one.
So what if he agreed with OBL on WHAT the reasoning of 9/11 was, doesn't mean he agrees with it. That is why they say they attacked, so how is agreeing with that being the reason wrong?
The only thing I don't agree with is that the Bush admin was "gleeful" (well, Cheney probably was. Dude is evil....seriously). I don't think GWB wanted anything like that to ever happen.
jhay78;1066405 wrote:He's also said that the only reason the Taliban hates us is because we're in their country, i.e, they don't like foreigners, when the fact is they were nurtured, armed, and financed by Saudis and Pakistanis (those are foreigners to Afghanistan). I have a hard time believing he would unleash holy hell on the group that gave safe haven to Al Qaeda long before 9/11.
Saudis and Pakis, while from different countries, aren't foreign like Americans are foreign. The people over there don't think of foreigners like we do. They identify with each other even though they may dislike each other. We are all together different to them. Different religion (for the most part in their eyes) and different way to live life.
fish82;1066578 wrote:Who gives a **** what their reason was? If you don't like our foreign policy, go burn a flag or march down the street with a sandwich board or something.
Oh ok. If you don't like our domestic policy (which you complain about constantly), go burn a flag or march down the street with a sandwich board or something. See how that works?
fish82;1066760 wrote:Cool story. Enlighten me what Iraq has to do with 9/11 again?
I always wondered the same thing and why we ever invaded to begin with. 12 years after Desert Storm we all of a sudden decided Iraq was an imminent threat to the US? Hardly.
fish82;1066797 wrote:That's after the fact. Try and keep up here...the question was what caused 9/11 to happen. Wanna take another stab at it?
Do you? You never answered the question either. You had a cop-out answer that went as follows:
Who gives a **** what their reason was? If you don't like our foreign policy, go burn a flag or march down the street with a sandwich board or something
fish82;1066798 wrote:Good stuff. They're pissed because we don't pay enough for their oil. That's even dumber than "they hate us cause we're free."
That's the only thing you got out of that video? That was one of many reasons.
fish82;1066868 wrote:I left the nationbuilding out as part of my "sucked in." You're right on that...although other than Opium and goats, I'm not sure what "resources" the region as to offer. My point was we did in fact render AQ relatively impotent. The majority of their infastructure is gone, their communications/money flow have been seriously disrupted, and they're overall nowhere near what they once were
Afghanistan certainly does have vast natural resources.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?pagewanted=all
fish82;1066888 wrote:LOL...their government could buy and sell our asses.
Uh...no they couldn't.
majorspark;1066972 wrote:We can try to get rid of ****s. You may able to plug a few ****s here and there. But we always going deal with the **** that comes out of the rest.
What do you mean get rid of? We should not be meddling and getting involved. Then we wouldn't have to worry about getting rid of anything.
