KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 27, 2011 12:11am
Hb31187;782808 wrote:So LBJ is a player that makes his team better and is a great leader. Derek Rose is a ball hog who is all about himself and needs improvement making his team better.
And Btw, Lebron played Pg, just wasnt labeled as one bc they started Mo Williams. Everyone knows he was the PG of that team and the Pg of the heat as well.
LBJ's team has 2 other top 15 players int he league and doesnt get the #1 seed, and he averages 18.8 shots a game and 7 assists.
Rose has his 2nd best option (Boozer) injured most of the year, leads them to the best record in the league. Shoots 19.7 shots a game and averages 7.7 assists. So 1 more shot and more assists
How does LBJ make his team better than Rose makes his?
He had a shitty series, yes, not denying that. But 1 superstar cannot beat 3. Especially when you get no help. Kinda like LBJ vs the Celtics
Hard to beat that argument
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 27, 2011 12:12am
Hb31187;782808 wrote:So LBJ is a player that makes his team better and is a great leader. Derek Rose is a ball hog who is all about himself and needs improvement making his team better.
And Btw, Lebron played Pg, just wasnt labeled as one bc they started Mo Williams. Everyone knows he was the PG of that team and the Pg of the heat as well.
LBJ's team has 2 other top 15 players int he league and doesnt get the #1 seed, and he averages 18.8 shots a game and 7 assists.
Rose has his 2nd best option (Boozer) injured most of the year, leads them to the best record in the league. Shoots 19.7 shots a game and averages 7.7 assists. So 1 more shot and more assists
How does LBJ make his team better than Rose makes his?
He had a shitty series, yes, not denying that. But 1 superstar cannot beat 3. Especially when you get no help. Kinda like LBJ vs the Celtics
Throw all the stats you want out, watch them play and get back with me. Lebron was the only superstar in Cleveland but still made his teammates better and made the right decisions elevating the level of his teammates play and making life easy for them. Rose forces shots, puts his head down and passes only when it's the last option.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 27, 2011 12:15am
Also he had help, Boozer played great in games 3-4, Noah played well defensively and rebounded well all series, and Deng was good all series, SMH at you acting like he's out there playing with bums, he didn't do his job plain and simple.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 27, 2011 12:15am
I'm not even sure what the current argument is? Someone is saying Rose is better than LeBron?
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 27, 2011 12:17am
So you call Rose a ballhog for averaging about the exact amount of shots LBJ takes. And say he passes as a last resort, when LBJ averages less assists per game while running point for a team with 2 other superstars? Does that make any sense at all? Especially when you say stats dont matter, bc thats kinda an easy way to see if a player is selfish/a ball hog.
and Rose IS the only superstar in Chicago and made the right decisions to elevate his team which is evident by the #1 seed that he lead them to. Kinda like LBJ did...actually exaccctly like LBJ did.
and Rose IS the only superstar in Chicago and made the right decisions to elevate his team which is evident by the #1 seed that he lead them to. Kinda like LBJ did...actually exaccctly like LBJ did.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 27, 2011 12:18am
karen lotz;782816 wrote:I'm not even sure what the current argument is? Someone is saying Rose is better than LeBron?
Im arguing that Rose makes his teammates better much like James did. He thinks Rose is too selfish
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 27, 2011 12:19am
Regular season means nothing.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 27, 2011 12:20am
Hb31187;782819 wrote:Im arguing that Rose makes his teammates better much like James did. He thinks Rose is too selfish
Sure he does to some extent. But Rose is more of a score first PG and LeBron is more of a facilitator that can score when he wants to.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 27, 2011 12:20am
Meh, itts not completely emaninglesskaren lotz;782820 wrote:Regular season means nothing.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 27, 2011 12:22am
karen lotz;782820 wrote:Regular season means nothing.
Then why even have it?
Why play for a higher seed and homecourt advantage?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 27, 2011 12:22am
This is never going to end, I've already said that Lebron should average more shots since he's a wing and Rose is a damn PG. Also, Rose should average a few more assists per game because he has the ball in his hands 100% of the time while Lebron shares it with Wade and Bosh, so you're other 2 superstar argument doesn't work. Also, decision making is more than just how many assists you average per game, it's knowing when to pass, when to shoot, when to drive, get it?Hb31187;782817 wrote:So you call Rose a ballhog for averaging about the exact amount of shots LBJ takes. And say he passes as a last resort, when LBJ averages less assists per game while running point for a team with 2 other superstars? Does that make any sense at all? Especially when you say stats dont matter, bc thats kinda an easy way to see if a player is selfish/a ball hog.
and Rose IS the only superstar in Chicago and made the right decisions to elevate his team which is evident by the #1 seed that he lead them to. Kinda like LBJ did...actually exaccctly like LBJ did.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 27, 2011 12:22am
Hb31187;782823 wrote:Meh, itts not completely emaningless
Ask Skyhook. Oh wait...
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 27, 2011 12:23am
KR1245;782825 wrote:Then why even have it?
Why play for a higher seed and homecourt advantage?
I was being facetious. Others have used that argument to support their opinions.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
May 27, 2011 12:31am
Well there goes my plans for saturday now. The Bulls took it bending over OKC style. Spo kept them calm, and you can see him growing as a coach. Once again, Wade looked 35, but pulled the shit out of his ass like he planned it that way. Lebron was quite impressive down the stretch. I don't know if I've seen a player conserve their energy that efficiently in a whole series before. He literally toyed with them for quarters at a time, then stepped on their throats. Rose did not look like an elite player that series. At 22, I don't expect that against a very good team. Boozer thanks for your flagrant fouls that absolutely woke a monster. Chicago hates you. You'll be seeing this one again in the future.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 27, 2011 2:04am
Boozer is trash.. All of my friends who love the Bulls want him out. They finally wised up to what I've been saying, it's glorious.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
May 27, 2011 3:52am
Couldn't agree more.hoops23;782845 wrote:Boozer is trash.. All of my friends who love the Bulls want him out. They finally wised up to what I've been saying, it's glorious.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
May 27, 2011 4:12am
hoops23;782845 wrote:Boozer is trash.. All of my friends who love the Bulls want him out. They finally wised up to what I've been saying, it's glorious.
They overpaid soooo much for him. Like when we got our third option Larry Hughes. Ugh, I just threw up a little.
Heelz
Posts: 780
May 27, 2011 7:42am
+1 He did decent at best at times but to me the most useless person on the team for this series was Korver.WTF was he doing even on the court? He shot like ass his defense was shit the only thing he should have been doing was giving Hi 5's and handing out towels.hoops23;782845 wrote:Boozer is trash.. All of my friends who love the Bulls want him out. They finally wised up to what I've been saying, it's glorious.