Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:19pm
                            
                        sleeper;782704 wrote:LOL
I love you backing out now because its "not worth looking up". You made a claim that's false, I called you out on it, and you come back with this bullshit?
Its not false, they showed it on ESPN multiple times this year. But if it makes you feel better...you so owned me
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:19pm
                            
                        Hb31187;782701 wrote:With Boozer and Noah out for big chunks? No.
And im not talking about the bums he took to the finals, i mean the few years he lead them to the best record in the league
Agreed. In fact, Andy and Noah are the same player. Boozer is a slight upgrade over a healthy AJ IMO.. Boozer is a pussy who disappears in games. DWIll made him an All Star.
sleeper
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:20pm
                            
                        Hb31187;782715 wrote:Its not false, they showed it on ESPN multiple times this year. But if it makes you feel better...you so owned me
You're credibility is ruined and destroyed until you provide a link. That's how it works. Man up and admit you are wrong and I'll let it go.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:21pm
                            
                        sleeper;782719 wrote:You're credibility is ruined and destroyed until you provide a link. That's how it works. Man up and admit you are wrong and I'll let it go.
My OC credibility :/ dammit
killer_ewok
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:21pm
                            
                        Yeah, it was said a while back but I definitely remember it being said a lot then.Mulva;782712 wrote:I don't think I heard anyone say that after about December. They won 58 games and were the 2 seed. If anyone is surprised they made the finals, then anyone is an idiot.
KR1245
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:22pm
                            
                        
                                Bulls needed to go out and get a SG at the deadline
                            
                        karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:22pm
                            
                        KR1245;782725 wrote:Bulls needed to go out and get a SG at the deadline
And they need to find a taker on Boozer in the off season.
like_that
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:23pm
                            
                        
                                Hate to see the Heat in the finals but they dominated the series after game 1.  Only good thing about this is one of my college buddies, who is a Bulls fan always trolled me when I watched  the Cavs.  The year after the Cavs lost to Orlando in the ECF he always talked about how no team should ever win MVP, coach of the year, and exec of the year in the same season if they don't win a title.  Well, the Bulls just did the same thing this year, so he will be sure to hear it from me.
                            
                        Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:24pm
                            
                        karen lotz;782728 wrote:And they need to find a taker on Boozer in the off season.
This.
Boozer played pathetic all post season
robj55
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:25pm
                            
                        hoops23;782717 wrote:Agreed. In fact, Andy and Noah are the same player. Boozer is a slight upgrade over a healthy AJ IMO.. Boozer is a pussy who disappears in games. DWIll made him an All Star.
Noah is much better than Varejao, Boozer is a much better pf than Twan. Luol Deng is better than anything the Cavs had on the wing outside of Bron. Throw in Gibson, and Asik up front, Brewer and Korver on the wing and a good back up pg in Watson. They are much more talented than the Cavs were.
wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:25pm
                            
                        
                                Where was Bron???
                            
                        Automatik
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:26pm
                            
                        Hb31187;782730 wrote:This.
Boozer played pathetic all post season
I remember when they landed him it was Chicago's time to step up. Yeah they did....no thanks to that fucker.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:26pm
                            
                        like_that;782729 wrote:Hate to see the Heat in the finals but they dominated the series after game 1. Only good thing about this is one of my college buddies, who is a Bulls fan always trolled me when I watched the Cavs. The year after the Cavs lost to Orlando in the ECF he always talked about how no team should ever win MVP, coach of the year, and exec of the year in the same season if they don't win a title. Well, the Bulls just did the same thing this year, so he will be sure to hear it from me.
Are we the same person? Because this is exactly the same scenario with me... I just won 50 bucks a piece from two Bulls fans that trolled the Cavs last year and blew off the Bulls this year.
I continued to tell them that it was the Chicago Cavaliers this season.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:27pm
                            
                        robj55;782732 wrote:Noah is much better than Varejao, Boozer is a much better pf than Twan. Luol Deng is better than anything the Cavs had on the wing outside of Bron. Throw in Gibson, and Asik up front, Brewer and Korver on the wing and a good back up pg in Watson. They are much more talented than the Cavs were.
Noah and Andy average the same thing. Whether you think he's better or not is an opinion, because I think they're the same damn player. I will say that Andy brings it more in the postseason than Noah did.
jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:29pm
                            
                        
                                Good call to all of those who predicted that the series was over after game 1
                            
                        robj55
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:29pm
                            
                        hoops23;782738 wrote:Noah and Andy average the same thing. Whether you think he's better or not is an opinion, because I think they're the same damn player. I will say that Andy brings it more in the postseason than Noah did.
Just because they are the same type of player doesn't mean that one isn't better than the other, Noah is a better passer, rebounder and shot blocker while playing harder.
Automatik
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:30pm
                            
                        jordo212000;782740 wrote:Good call to all of those who predicted that the series was over after game 1
Um yeah. Chicago swept Miami in the regular season.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:30pm
                            
                        robj55;782732 wrote:Noah is much better than Varejao, Boozer is a much better pf than Twan. Luol Deng is better than anything the Cavs had on the wing outside of Bron. Throw in Gibson, and Asik up front, Brewer and Korver on the wing and a good back up pg in Watson. They are much more talented than the Cavs were.
They didnt have Boozer or Noah for most of the season though.
Wally does the exact same thing Korver does and was a bench player. Parker does as well.
Gibson>Watson
Z>Asik
Moon>Brewer
Not to mention Mo Williams, Delonte West, Shaq and Hickson were on the cavs as well.
Lebron had just as much talent as the Bulls did this year.
KR1245
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:31pm
                            
                        robj55;782741 wrote:Just because they are the same type of player doesn't mean that one isn't better than the other, Noah is a better passer, rebounder and shot blocker while playing harder.
hahha
Have you ever seen Anderson Varejoa play a game of basketball?
Mulva
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:33pm
                            
                        Agree with those two. Disagree with the rest. Noah and Varejao are very similar. Noah is a way better passer and has a more skilled offensive game, but he isn't "much better" overall. The Bulls bench is not good. At all. Omer Asik? Really?robj55;782732 wrote:Boozer is a much better pf than Twan. Luol Deng is better than anything the Cavs had on the wing outside of Bron.
Boozer didn't have a great postseason, but you're crazy if you think the Bulls should dump him (that's a general "you"). He put up 26 and 17 and 20 and 11 in games 3 and 4. He wasn't god-awful.
jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:33pm
                            
                        Yawn... The NBA regular seasonGood call to all of those who predicted that the series was over after game 1
Um yeah. Chicago swept Miami in the regular season.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:34pm
                            
                        robj55;782741 wrote:Just because they are the same type of player doesn't mean that one isn't better than the other, Noah is a better passer, rebounder and shot blocker while playing harder.
Noah doesn't play harder than Varejao.
Andy averaged 9 points 10 boards and shot 52.8% in 32 MPG this season.. He averaged like 1.5 APG as well..
Noah averaged 12 points and 10 boards and shot 52% in 32 MPG this season.. He averaged 2.2 APG
Again, same damn player. Neither are going to kill you offensively. They both crash the boards and hustle very well. I think Andy is a better 1-on-1 defender and Noah is a better creator.
As far as shot blocking, Noah averaged about 1.5 blocks a game, Andy 1.2...
Again..
robj55
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:34pm
                            
                        Gibson is a better shooter, thats itHb31187;782744 wrote:They didnt have Boozer or Noah for most of the season though.
Wally does the exact same thing Korver does and was a bench player. Parker does as well.
Gibson>Watson
Z>Asik
Moon>Brewer
Not to mention Mo Williams, Delonte West, Shaq and Hickson were on the cavs as well.
Lebron had just as much talent as the Bulls did this year.
Asik is better defensively, more energy, better rotations and a better rebounder, Z was old
Brewer is better than moon, not sure where you get that, better rebounder, better defensively and off the dribble, even shooting
karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:34pm
                            
                        jordo212000;782740 wrote:Good call to all of those who predicted that the series was over after game 1
haha probably won't hear from any of those posters tonight.
robj55
                                                                            
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                                May 26, 2011 11:35pm
                            
                        watch them play and tell me who has more of an impact on the game, wish we could poll people on who thinks who is better, guarantee around the league its 80 percent noahhoops23;782753 wrote:Noah doesn't play harder than Varejao.
Andy averaged 9 points 10 boards and shot 52.8% in 32 MPG this season.. He averaged like 1.5 APG as well..
Noah averaged 12 points and 10 boards and shot 52% in 32 MPG this season.. He averaged 2.2 APG
Again, same damn player. Neither are going to kill you offensively. They both crash the boards and hustle very well. I think Andy is a better 1-on-1 defender and Noah is a better creator.
As far as shot blocking, Noah averaged about 1.5 blocks a game, Andy 1.2...
Again..