Game 40 - St. Louis Cardinals (Chris Carpenter) at Cincinnati Reds (Travis Wood)

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May 14, 2011 7:17 PM
Reds go for the sweep as they defend first place for the first time in almost a month. These two met three weeks ago in St. Louis, and the Reds won the game although neither factored in the decision.

Jonny Gomes went 0 for 4 with a strikeout today. He's now batting .186 with 37 strikeouts, which is 10th in the National League. He's now 11 for his last 72 and since April 16th he has 4 RBI's. His drought is too an all-time high lever and it's really time to start looking elsewhere, especially given the current lineup with Rolen hitting 6th.

Tomorrow against Carpenter I'd like to see...

CF Stubbs
LF Lewis
1B Votto
2B Phillips
RF Bruce
3B Rolen
C Hernandez
SS Janish
P Wood

Heisey in LF would be alright as well, but if Phillips hits 4th and Rolen 6th, Heisey and/or Lewis should hit at the top of the order and Janish should be moved down.
May 14, 2011 7:17pm
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May 14, 2011 8:02 PM
I like your lineup with Lewis in there. Heisey hasn't impressed from the starting role and Lewis has looked good in just about every situation so far.
May 14, 2011 8:02pm
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May 14, 2011 9:09 PM
How can Heisey be given a fair evaluation on how he plays as a starter?
May 14, 2011 9:09pm
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May 14, 2011 9:22 PM
Hanigan will be catching Wood.

Anyone know the numbers for Renteria and Janish vs Carp? Hell, they will probably both be in there. I'd imagine Rolen gets a day off.
May 14, 2011 9:22pm
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May 14, 2011 9:23 PM
Ironman92;768402 wrote:How can Heisey be given a fair evaluation on how he plays as a starter?

I'm just saying, his numbers as a starter in his career suck. Sub-.200 batting average, I believe.
May 14, 2011 9:23pm
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May 14, 2011 10:01 PM
How many starts though? Has he ever played and started for 15 out of 20 games?

Has he 3 starts in a 5 game span this year?

We've seen guys like Corey Patterson, Royce Clayton and Willy Taveras be at the very bottom of baseball in key offensive categories and be given so many chances we all wanted to shoot ourselves. I think we know as much about Heisey as we did Janish at this time last year.

Dusty gives hid weak excuse of how his swing only works on certain pitchers....then how did he even get to the majors?
May 14, 2011 10:01pm
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May 14, 2011 10:17 PM
I would imagine that Lewis would get the start in LF tomorrow to get another left handed batter in the lineup against Carpenter. And wasn't Heisey their best prospect at one time? It's not like the guy gets enough starts to get in a groove...he starts maybe 2 games a week. Might decrease now with Lewis hitting the ball now.
May 14, 2011 10:17pm
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May 14, 2011 10:21 PM
Just as long as Gomes is not in there. Dude is batting .189 right now (possibly lower after today). Tired of watching him pop up and K all the time.
May 14, 2011 10:21pm
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May 14, 2011 10:57 PM
Hey, I'm not opposed to Heisey starting at all. I'd much rather he be out there than Gomes. I'm just not gonna get my hopes up and think he's going to do much in that role. If he does, obviously that's great, I'm just not expecting much.
May 14, 2011 10:57pm
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May 14, 2011 11:25 PM
The Reds are pretty good and are pretty good with Gomes in LF...but we saw what crappy plate approaches get you in the playoffs and versus very good pitchers.

I don't expect Heisey to set the league a blaze...but believe he can do more to help the Reds win and just wonder why he is almost always the odd man out?
May 14, 2011 11:25pm
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May 15, 2011 11:36 AM
Stubbs cf
Janish ss
Votto 1b
Phillips 2b
Bruce rf
Rolen 3b
Lewis lf
Hernandez c
Wood p
May 15, 2011 11:36am
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May 15, 2011 12:19 PM
This Rolen at #6 stuff makes the bottom a little stronger.....but I'd much rather Phillips be 2nd and Rolen 4th. If Renteria were in for Janish it would be a little more reasonable. But for all purposes.....I want Phillips 2nd and Rolen 4th.......

But of course Dusty turning down a chance to bat the CF 1st and the SS 2nd is like many of us turning down sex.

I'm pretty sure Phillips/Votto/Rolen in that order were pretty key in making the playoffs
May 15, 2011 12:19pm
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May 15, 2011 12:50 PM
Phillips has done a much better job of not trying to hit everything out from the 4 hole this year. I don't really want him to stay there. But I do like this lineup and makes the lineup look really deep.
May 15, 2011 12:50pm
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May 15, 2011 1:26 PM
I think it's funny the cards are complaining and crying about Phillips homer yesterday. I didn't see him do anything he doesn't usually do. Nothing more then when Jay hit his for them and threw his bat.
May 15, 2011 1:26pm
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May 15, 2011 1:30 PM
Back to back shots for the Cardinals and its 2-0, followed by a double. Not looking good for Wood after a good first inning.
May 15, 2011 1:30pm
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May 15, 2011 1:32 PM
Did FOX Ohio just accidentally show HOF Marty Brennaman flipping off someone after catching that foul ball? It was not a perfect angle but he either flipped someone the bird on live tv or he had two fingers up signifying something else.
May 15, 2011 1:32pm
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May 15, 2011 1:35 PM
Ironman92;768608 wrote:Did FOX Ohio just accidentally show HOF Marty Brennaman flipping off someone after catching that foul ball? It was not a perfect angle but he either flipped someone the bird on live tv or he had two fingers up signifying something else.

I'm out watching it so I can't go back, but it definitely looked like he was giving someone the bird. Was waiting for someone to say something cause I wasn't sure.
May 15, 2011 1:35pm
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May 15, 2011 1:47 PM
I think Phillips is a very good type for a #2 hitter with the things he does very well. I feel Rolen fits the mold of a #5 hitter and the current Reds really don't have a true cleanup hitter.

IMO Phillips #2, Rolen #4, Janish #7 or #8 is better than Janish #2, Phillips #4, Rolen #6

Possible #2 hitters :
Phillips
Renteria
Lewis
Cairo
Janish would be my 5th choice.

Possible #6 hitters:

Hernandez
Heisey
Lewis
Renteria
Bruce
Cairo
Janish
Rolen....probably my 8th choice
May 15, 2011 1:47pm
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May 15, 2011 1:50 PM
I do agree that Phillips is our 2nd best choice in the 4 hole and if someone is hitting well and makes sense in the 2 hole I have little problems as long as Phillips keeps going the other way and not trying to be Jeff Kent
May 15, 2011 1:50pm
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May 15, 2011 1:52 PM
HR number-wise I mean ...... But Kent was so productive cause he actually went the other way better than most anyone.
May 15, 2011 1:52pm
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May 15, 2011 1:53 PM
Welsh being tough from the booth!
May 15, 2011 1:53pm
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May 15, 2011 1:57 PM
Damn Votto

He's too good to strikeout lol
May 15, 2011 1:57pm
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May 15, 2011 1:58 PM
Ironman92;768608 wrote:Did FOX Ohio just accidentally show HOF Marty Brennaman flipping off someone after catching that foul ball? It was not a perfect angle but he either flipped someone the bird on live tv or he had two fingers up signifying something else.

Wouldn't be surprised if he did. Marty is notorious for his foul mouth. He even admitted as much on the radio yesterday.
May 15, 2011 1:58pm
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May 15, 2011 1:58 PM
Now Welsh being stupid. That Stubbs ball took an atrocious bounce on the 2nd baseman. A lucky hit for Stubbs and St Louis defense did nothing wrong.
May 15, 2011 1:58pm
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May 15, 2011 2:03 PM
Who was it on here that laughed at the fact that the Cardinals picked up the washed up Lance Berkman?

Talk about epic fail.
May 15, 2011 2:03pm