Well after making so many Comets our friends, I thought it would be a good time to get to know our old friends from region 13 and try to get some of their opinions, forecasts, and scouting reports on their team and other regional teams. I'm sure others will chime in on the region 14 thread to give their expert opinions.

Put this over here and see if we get any new friends from the region.

Playoff Participation Region 13 Teams

BEACHWOOD (0) none
BLACK RIVER SULLIVAN (7) 1985, 1996-1999, 2002, 2003
BROOKFIELD (2) 1978 (1st) 1994
BROOKLYN (0) none
CANTON CENTRAL CATHOLIC CANTON (10) times last in 2007
CARDINAL MIDDLEFIELD (1) 2002
CHAMPION WARREN (2) 1993-1994
CHIPPEWA DOYLESTOWN (1) 1999
CLEVELAND CENTRAL CATHOLIC CLEVELAND (1) 1982
EDGEWOOD ASHTABULA (0) none
FAIRLESS NAVARRE (1) 1999
FAIRVIEW FAIRVIEW PARK (1) 2000
GARFIELD GARRETTSVILLE (4) 1988, 2004-05, 2010
GIRARD (5) 1991, 1999, 2002-03, 2009
GRAND VALLEY ORWELL (4) 1986, 1996-1998
HAWKEN GATES MILLS (8) 1986-87, 1990-91,1993, 2000-01, 2009
LABRAE LEAVITTSBURG (2) 1983, 2008
LAKEVIEW CORTLAND (6) 1995-96,2000, 2007, 2009-10
LIBERTY YOUNGSTOWN (5) 2000, 2004-06, 2008
LUTHERAN WEST ROCKY RIVER (2) 2002, 2005
MANCHESTER AKRON (18 times), 1989, 1991-2005, (15 consecutive) 2009-10
NEWTON FALLS (0) none
NORTHWESTERN WEST SALEM (3) 2005-2007
NORWAYNE CRESTON (2) 2008, 2010
ORRVILLE (21 times) including 6 of last 8 years
PERRY (10)1987, 1996, 1999-2002, 2006-08, 2010
PYMATUNING VALLEY ANDOVER (0) none
SANDY VALLEY MAGNOLIA (0) none
STREETSBORO (1) 1992
TRIWAY WOOSTER (5) 1993, 2003, 2008-2010
TUSLAW MASSILLON (7) 1998-2001, 2004, 2006, 2008
WICKLIFFE (7) 1985, 1987, 1990, 1997, 1999-2001

Checking in. I know I'm not a "new" friend, but I'm here nonetheless.

I am always willing to give my opinion. Thanks for the warm welcome.

Pit, Triway is in the mix with us and I'm sure you will add a lot to the discussion.

What is the run down of the PAC this year Pit and Ringz since most are in region 13. Who will be tough? I here over on Yappi the Manchester faithful are predicting a State Championship....some things never change, haha.

Manchester will be tough once again. They return their QB and really fast RB as well as a WR and their whole OL. Their defense has lots to fill, though. CVCA will be better. Tusky will be dangerous in a year or two, I think.

Region 14: Genoa Comets = Region 13: Manchester Panthers

haha I think we have a winner.

OQB;770683 wrote:Region 14: Genoa Comets = Region 13: Manchester Panthers

haha I think we have a winner.

No comparison. Manchester fans, for the most part, are very good. Much less cocky than the Comets.

thePITman;770722 wrote:No comparison. Manchester fans, for the most part, are very good. Much less cocky than the Comets.

Idk....after that Orrville girl's basketball game against Manchester in the tournament, the way the coaches reacted and fans reminded me of Genoa.

OQB;770757 wrote:Idk....after that Orrville girl's basketball game against Manchester in the tournament, the way the coaches reacted and fans reminded me of Genoa.

That coach with a beak for a nose is crazy! A great coach, but acts crazy. As for their football fans, they are very good people. I've met at least 5+ of them in person (many from JJ, Yappi, or OC) and enjoy hanging out with all of them. bison (regularly attend playoff football and basketball games with him), TopCat (haven't met him in person but friends on Facebook and text scores often), Pantherhoops (old school Huddler, very cool guy and friends with bison), 7Diamond (saw him while meeting the others for pizza in Akron), etc. All cool guys!

Haha....ok I'll take your word for it Pit, you haven't let me down yet.

FWIW.....wasn't their football coach suspended for arguing a call with an official a few years back?

thePITman;770722 wrote:No comparison. Manchester fans, for the most part, are very good. Much less cocky than the Comets.

You have to factor in years of history with the Red Riders before you make that statement Pit. Not so good blood between Manchester and Orrville throughout the years. We love it.

5knots;770933 wrote:You have to factor in years of history with the Red Riders before you make that statement Pit. Not so good blood between Manchester and Orrville throughout the years. We love it.

Well in that case, I'm not sure who's worse, Comet fans or Red Rider fans.

Low blow...haha

Where do we slot the Titans fans in all that mix? haha

riders1;771607 wrote:Where do we slot the Titans fans in all that mix? haha

We are the very worst. We wear purple, for crying out loud!

Competitive Balance fails::Quote:
COLUMBUS, Ohio — Fourteen of the 15 proposed Ohio High School Athletic Association Constitution and Bylaw revisions passed as voted upon by OHSAA member schools, Commissioner Daniel B. Ross, Ph.D., has announced. Changes were approved to three Constitution items and 11 Bylaw items.



The bylaw issue that did not pass was a proposal to change how schools are assigned to tournament divisions in the team sports of football, soccer, volleyball, basketball, baseball and softball. Rather than place schools into OHSAA tournament divisions based strictly on male or female enrollment, a recommendation to develop a sport-by-sport athletic count would have begun with enrollment and then potentially added enrollment based on how schools secure students (boundary factor) and a four-year tradition of success factor, while schools could have potentially lost enrollment based on a socioeconomic factor (high school students involved in the free lunch program). The proposed bylaw on this issue to address competitive balance in OHSAA tournaments failed 332 to 303 (52 percent to 48 percent).



“As most of our school administrators and coaches are aware, this change was recommended by an OHSAA Competitive Balance Committee, and we believe this would have been a fairer way to assign schools in team sports to their tournament divisions,” Ross said. “We also stressed to the membership that this was just a starting point for change since a companion OHSAA Sports Regulation would have allowed the Board of Directors to make modifications over time as a standing committee on competitive balance made recommendations.



“Our Board of Directors will have to provide direction on whether to reconvene the OHSAA Competitive Balance Committee to review other ‘competitive balance’ options, so I cannot speculate on whether or not that possibility exists. At the same time, we’re also hearing that discussions to file a petition may be taking place by some member schools that are seeking to separate our tournaments totally between public schools and non-public schools. Again, whether that occurs or not, it’s too early to tell.”



In order for the latter scenario to take place, a petition must be signed by 75 principals, including a minimum of five principals within each of the six OHSAA athletic districts, and submitted to the OHSAA office between August 1 and December 1. Voting on an issue would take place during the first two weeks of May 2012. Two such issues to separate the tournaments failed overwhelmingly in both 1978 (83.9 percent to 16.1 percent, or 637 to 122) and 1993 (66.8 percent to 32.3 percent, or 482 to 240).



All 15 proposals in 2011 were placed up for referendum vote by the OHSAA Board. High school principals had between May 1 and 16 to cast their votes, and a simple majority is all that is required for a proposed amendment to be adopted. The referendum issues that passed become effective August 1 unless noted.



The complete final voting results are available on the OHSAA web site ([URL="http://www.ohsaa.org%29/"]www.ohsaa.org)[/URL], and the 2011-12 Constitution and Bylaws will be posted on the site sometime in late June or early July.

The vote was closer than I thought it would be. The idea is good and has merit, but the formula proposed was NOT the answer, and I'm glad the votes agreed.

5knots;770933 wrote:You have to factor in years of history with the Red Riders before you make that statement Pit. Not so good blood between Manchester and Orrville throughout the years. We love it.

True dat!

thePITman;770722 wrote:No comparison. Manchester fans, for the most part, are very good. Much less cocky than the Comets.

The whole argument goes back to the A.O.L. days when EVERYONE in the entire league was an Orrville hater (much like the WCAL hate for us today). It did not matter who the Red Riders were playing on Friday night, our opponent hated playing us because of our success and the fact that WE knew WE were gonna win.

Cocky...yes! Swagger...check! Red Rider Tradition...100 years of it!

Hate us, love us, try to beat us...RED RIDER FOOTBALL!

If memory serves me correctly, I believe the Red Riders shut out the Entire league in the last year of existence?

That is was I was getting at last night...but of course I was a baby when that league existed...lol I got a taste of old AOL when we renewed our rivalry with Northwest for the first time in 2005....those people still hated us, and I can imagine Manchester is even worse than Northwest.

5Knots...the shutout year came in the 87 season..Mo's last season. The last year of the AOL was the 88 season...Mac's first season as head coach and Coach Mosely and Coach Haley's senior year.

..Fairless, West Holmes, Triway, Manchester, Northwest, Coventry, and Orrville. Its obvious why we won so many league titles in those years...that league was weak IMO!

We were known as "Score-ville" and I got to hear about it often when I was the frickin' tennis coach back then. (We whooped some a-double s in the league on tennis, too!)