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May 12, 2011 1:01 PM
september63;766473 wrote:Nice move Brantley.

Through 3 innings: The Tribe has grounded out 5 times, SO 3 times and been picked off. Can they get the ball in the air against Shields today?
May 12, 2011 1:01pm
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May 12, 2011 1:02 PM
iclfan2;766468 wrote:Man I go to eat lunch and come back and they're down 4-0. I heard it was Choo's fault but I'm not certain? Guess we gotta come back today. It can be done, still early.

What? No. It was Masterson getting drilled for the whole 2nd inning. Choo had a ball hit to him (with 2 on), and the ball got over his head cause he took a step or 2 in, but it was a laser...im not sure he wouldve caught it anyway.
May 12, 2011 1:02pm
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May 12, 2011 1:10 PM
Could really use a big fly from Pronk here.
May 12, 2011 1:10pm
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May 12, 2011 1:36 PM
Indians still dont have a fly ball out to the outfield through 5 innings.
May 12, 2011 1:36pm
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May 12, 2011 1:43 PM
Friend just called to play some golf. Bring the comeback boys. It would be a good one.
May 12, 2011 1:43pm
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May 12, 2011 1:52 PM
There's a fly ball. Druby goes yard to lead off the 6th followed by a Choo single
May 12, 2011 1:52pm
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May 12, 2011 1:53 PM
Well Cabrera hit the HR I said Sheilds does give up. Problem was no one was on base.
May 12, 2011 1:53pm
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May 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Come on Duncan.
May 12, 2011 2:01pm
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May 12, 2011 2:09 PM
With-in 3 runs at least they are back within striking distance.
May 12, 2011 2:09pm
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May 12, 2011 2:11 PM
Shields at 89 pitches after 6 innings. We will get our shot at the Rays Bullpen.
May 12, 2011 2:11pm
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May 12, 2011 2:44 PM
Choo is just lost. Some atrocious swings recently.
May 12, 2011 2:44pm
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May 12, 2011 2:48 PM
Santana hasnt been much better. Atleast Choo got the run in.
May 12, 2011 2:48pm
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May 12, 2011 2:52 PM
september63;766620 wrote:Santana hasnt been much better. Atleast Choo got the run in.

Santana is 10 for his last 30, and has put some very good swings on the ball.
May 12, 2011 2:52pm
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May 12, 2011 3:00 PM
For the season they are .221 and .225. BTW, the Tribe pen just blew any chance we had of a comeback. Oh well.
May 12, 2011 3:00pm
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May 12, 2011 3:03 PM
september63;766633 wrote:For the season they are .221 and .225. BTW, the Tribe pen just blew any chance we had of a comeback. Oh well.

I realize that. But Im just talking about the last week. Choo has looked completely lost. He has taken about 5 half swings, and a few swings on fastballs where he lunges at it when its in the catchers glove after anticipating an offspeed pitch. Its been really bad.

You cant look at season averages anyway or your never going to be satisfied. Looking at smaller samples gives a much better perspective of how well someone is hitting. Santana was at like .195 last week. He has raised it to .220 in a week. That is good hitting.
May 12, 2011 3:03pm
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May 12, 2011 3:26 PM
Not here to gloat but the Indians are definitely a better team then I thought. I saw the record and thought they'd come back to earth. They might have some struggles as all teams do, but I think they will contend this year; especially with their persistence late in games. Despite Choo and Satanta struggling the rest of the guys are performing at a level where maintaining it isn't out of the question. Adding those two at their usual performance will give the Indians a scary offense.

I liked the ESPN article someone posted today. Good to see some youngsters mentioned from the CC/Cliff trades as the future of the pitching staff. Maybe the trades weren't so bad afterall. I mean, Kyle Drabek/Mat Gamel/Domonic Brown haven't become the can't miss guys that everyone was so upset the Indians missed out on.
May 12, 2011 3:26pm
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May 12, 2011 3:34 PM
mucalum49;766673 wrote:Good to see some youngsters mentioned from the CC/Cliff trades as the future of the pitching staff. Maybe the trades weren't so bad afterall.

No, they were still really bad trades.

As for today's game, Masterson was due to have a rough outing at some point. Can't expect a guy to deal every time out. Would love to see a sweep over the Ms this weekend.
May 12, 2011 3:34pm
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May 12, 2011 5:14 PM
mucalum49;766673 wrote:
I liked the ESPN article someone posted today. Good to see some youngsters mentioned from the CC/Cliff trades as the future of the pitching staff. Maybe the trades weren't so bad afterall. I mean, Kyle Drabek/Mat Gamel/Domonic Brown haven't become the can't miss guys that everyone was so upset the Indians missed out on.

meh, Drabek and Brown are already better than Donald, Carrasco, and Marson lol.

The CC Trade I think was good. We got Brantley and LaPorta, and even if they didnt pan out, it would be tough to fault them because they were so highly regarded. In the Phillies trade, if the guys dont pan out they deserve shit cause no one thought they would anyway!!!


As for contending this year. If we had gotten off to the fast start with offense, Id be skeptical. But we have done it with pitching, and that usually is a constant that doesnt go away. Thats why I am starting to believe a lot more, the pitching has gotten better with out supposed #2 going on the DL (though he is back).
May 12, 2011 5:14pm
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May 12, 2011 9:23 PM
I'd do the CC trade 10 times out of 10.
May 12, 2011 9:23pm
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May 12, 2011 9:28 PM
The Lee trade is still up in the air as far as what we got back. If Hagadone keeps up what he is doing this year, it will look a lot better. I realize the timing was bad, but the talent back is an unknown right now. And the CC trade is turning out to be a good one.
May 12, 2011 9:28pm
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May 12, 2011 9:35 PM
Which one of you guys is going to pick up the ball and start the next thread? Let's put the engine back on the tracks and get it going!
May 12, 2011 9:35pm
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May 12, 2011 9:37 PM
TBone already started it....
May 12, 2011 9:37pm
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May 12, 2011 9:44 PM
Thanks! I'll get off my crackberry and onto a real computer and see if I can find it.
May 12, 2011 9:44pm
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May 12, 2011 11:09 PM
I don't get how the CC trade is turning out to be a good one at this point. We traded him in June, a month before the deadline, without making anyone up their antes. He was a Cy Young winner, and what have we got back?

Jackson was a bum, LaPorta hasn't even been average, and Bryson hasn't made the league yet and has injury history (although he's been very good when healthy, he's been injured as often as not).

Is Michael Brantley for CC a good trade at this point?
May 12, 2011 11:09pm
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May 12, 2011 11:45 PM
Phillies did deal Drabek for Halliday and even got Lee back, Hagadone was from Boston in the Victor trade, so neither deal is looking all that good right now.
May 12, 2011 11:45pm