5/7/11 More trouble for OSU

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Ty Webb
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May 26, 2011 1:28pm

No...I've read on other message boards that the big one has to deal with point shaving
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May 26, 2011 1:30pm
karen lotz;781932 wrote:Ok, so did I call you out or not?

He is closer to the situation. Was the average OSU student on full athletic scholarship for 2 years and would have an idea how the money the athletes got weren't enough to pay for a new Charger with tricked out rims? You can't understand that? Titus didn't have inside information on how they got the cars or if they got hookups, but he was putting two and two together to try to explain how they could have afforded those cars. God damn man.


Whatever you want to think, I'm not going to argue with you. His words, not mine.
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May 26, 2011 1:33pm
Ty Webb;781934 wrote:No...I've read on other message boards that the big one has to deal with point shaving


Your defunct board doesn't count.
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May 26, 2011 1:36pm
Bomani Jones is trying to get Small on his talk show tomorrow morning.
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May 26, 2011 1:44pm
Ray Small? Really? LOL

The haters are so desperate that they are asking freakin' Ray Small(and likely paying him) to speak out against Tressel and OSU. What's next? Mo C? Eugene Clifford?

Keep hatin', we'll keep winning, and you're team will still suck.
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May 26, 2011 1:45pm
Ty Webb;781934 wrote:No...I've read on other message boards that the big one has to deal with point shaving

lol point shaving that one will be hard to prove. I thought it was about vacations etc... although recently it will just be a rehash of a bunch of crap and probably some minor recruiting violations that have already been reported.
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May 26, 2011 1:49pm
Ty Webb;781934 wrote:No...I've read on other message boards that the big one has to deal with point shaving

Isn't OSU pretty good against the spread?
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May 26, 2011 1:55pm
sleeper;781952 wrote:Ray Small? Really? LOL

The haters are so desperate that they are asking freakin' Ray Small(and likely paying him) to speak out against Tressel and OSU. What's next? Mo C? Eugene Clifford?

Keep hatin', we'll keep winning, and you're team will still suck.
*your
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May 26, 2011 2:05pm
Ty Webb;781934 wrote:No...I've read on other message boards that the big one has to deal with point shaving

LINK or you like butt secks.
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May 26, 2011 2:16pm
sleeper;781952 wrote:Ray Small? Really? LOL

The haters are so desperate that they are asking freakin' Ray Small(and likely paying him) to speak out against Tressel and OSU. What's next? Mo C? Eugene Clifford?

Keep hatin', we'll keep winning, and you're team will still suck.

You do realize The Lantern wrote the article right?
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May 26, 2011 2:22pm
sleeper;781952 wrote:Ray Small? Really? LOL

The haters are so desperate that they are asking freakin' Ray Small(and likely paying him) to speak out against Tressel and OSU. What's next? Mo C? Eugene Clifford?

Keep hatin', we'll keep winning, and you're team will still suck.
Bomani Jones actually said:
you can deal with the ncaa stuff. i just have no love for ppl that mess up the hookup for EVERYONE ELSE for no reason.
and
we're trying to get ray small on #TheMorningJones tomorrow. cuz this snitchin just doesn't make sense. i need answers.
http://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/73803577382027264
http://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/73801845193187329

Who is SI's team and what was their record last year?
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May 26, 2011 2:22pm
thedynasty1998;781983 wrote:You do realize The Lantern wrote the article right?

Why does that matter? At the end of the day its still Ray Small thats doing the talking.
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May 26, 2011 2:29pm
thedynasty1998;781983 wrote:You do realize The Lantern wrote the article right?

I wouldn't say they are out of the clear yet. Malcolm Jenkins (who I would believe, negative or positive) will be on College Football Live to discuss this. Apparently the Lantern left out many of his comments (fairness?). I'd really like to see what that's about.

One thing i've been wondering and i've seen brought up, is Ray Small "Player G"?
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May 26, 2011 2:39pm
JerseyBuck;781999 wrote:One thing i've been wondering and i've seen brought up, is Ray Small "Player G"?

nothing would surprise me, but this statement leads me to believe it's not:
The NCAA's notice of allegations sent to university President E. Gordon Gee on April 21 details the infractions that the six aforementioned athletes committed. It also lists a seventh violator, noted under letter "g" in its document. The NCAA accuses that player of having repeated interaction with Rife for a year-and-a-half.

Small said he didn't know much about Rife or Fine Line Ink.

Among the items this mystery player sold to Rife was a 2010 Rose Bowl watch for $250. However, Small, defensive end Rob Rose and running back Bo DeLande were suspended for the 2010 Rose Bowl for a "violation of team rules."

According to athletic department spokesman Dan Wallenberg, that means Small didn't receive a watch.
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May 26, 2011 2:50pm
vball10set;782015 wrote:nothing would surprise me, but this statement leads me to believe it's not:

Just looked it over again and you're right.
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May 26, 2011 2:53pm
JerseyBuck;782032 wrote:Just looked it over again and you're right.

like I said, though--nothing would surprise me
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May 26, 2011 2:54pm
Rob Rose is another upstanding citizen
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May 26, 2011 3:11pm
For those of you who remember...this is NO different than when Clarret made his allegations and there followed several ex-OSU players who went to the media and said similar things. All of them had less than stellar reputations, the same as Small. In the end, nothing that was said by any of those players was verified by the NCAA.

Character and credibility mean something, and Ray Small lacks both. If he's got proof of what he says, then he'd better get it in order for the NCAA. If not, he'll come out looking just as foolish as some of his predecessors have.
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May 26, 2011 3:19pm
Another main difference, Writer, between this and Clarett(this is the correct spelling) is that Tressel was thought to have been a man of honor and integrity at the time of MoC spouting off. That isn't the case anymore.
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May 26, 2011 3:25pm
Who here thinks Clarett would bash Tressel to the media now? Not me. Not in the slightest.
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May 26, 2011 4:04pm
Anybody catch Malcolm Jenkins on College Football Live? If not check it out when it comes back on at 6, he did a great job. He said Coach Tressel and the staff do a good job in laying out to players AND their families the rules. He also said it's up to the player whether they choose to ignore it or follow. Also said that while Ray Small and his small circle may have done it, the vast majority followed the rules.
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May 26, 2011 4:16pm
KR1245;781992 wrote:Why does that matter? At the end of the day its still Ray Small thats doing the talking.

Because sleeper made it seem like the article was written by some hater.
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May 26, 2011 4:31pm
karen lotz;782078 wrote:Another main difference, Writer, between this and Clarett(this is the correct spelling) is that Tressel was thought to have been a man of honor and integrity at the time of MoC spouting off. That isn't the case anymore.

Bah, never could spell the dude's name right...probably because I detest him to this day.

I'll disagree with you. One mistake like this in a man's life does not take away all the good he's done, and it doesn't extinguish his honor and integrity. If JT had a history of lying then you'd have a point; but I believe in giving people a second chance when they screw up like this. I know that's not the popular thing to say right now...everyone is in a feeding frenzy and don't want to stop and have a cogent thought.
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May 26, 2011 4:58pm
sportswizuhrd;781991 wrote:Bomani Jones actually said:


and



http://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/73803577382027264
http://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/73801845193187329

Who is SI's team and what was their record last year?

The media doesn't like Ohio State because people don't like Ohio State so they want readers. Like I said, getting rid of Tressel or any sanctions doesn't make your team any better, in fact its pretty pathetic.

Like I said, we're going to be a successful program and going to have plenty of jealous haters no matter what happens. Keep hatin', we'll keep winning.
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May 26, 2011 4:59pm
Writerbuckeye;782065 wrote:For those of you who remember...this is NO different than when Clarret made his allegations and there followed several ex-OSU players who went to the media and said similar things. All of them had less than stellar reputations, the same as Small. In the end, nothing that was said by any of those players was verified by the NCAA.

Character and credibility mean something, and Ray Small lacks both. If he's got proof of what he says, then he'd better get it in order for the NCAA. If not, he'll come out looking just as foolish as some of his predecessors have.

maybe the ncaa didnt find any wrong doing when clarett made his allegations, but the list of buckeyes that got into trouble or got arrested showed that clarett was pretty much accurate in his allegations.