jhay78;749502 wrote:That's what I'm wondering. I haven't really see anything new since the March presser, when Smith and Gee were gushing praise on JT. And I don't think the NCAA can fire a school's coach, or force a school to fire their coach, or can they?

dokken;749494 wrote:So if they have to forfeit the Sugar Bowl it will all go back to OSU being winless in bowls against SEC competition.

jhay78;749502 wrote:That's what I'm wondering. I haven't really see anything new since the March presser, when Smith and Gee were gushing praise on JT.

Smith said Tressel was supposed to apologize in March at a news conference on the situation but failed to do so, and that only after meeting with Smith did the coach finally say he was sorry in a public forum.

Tressel was supposed to apologize that night, but did not.

"Then we got with him and he got better at it," Smith said. "It's an emotional thing."

Smith would not say how much the investigation into Tressel's NCAA troubles would cost, although the university has hired two what he called "expensive" companies to help. He said Ohio State may have to make up the difference by dipping into the money the Buckeyes made from their appearance in the Sugar Bowl.

"It's a nightmare," he said.

karen lotz;749503 wrote:They can't directly fire him, but they can make him unemployable by slapping him with a Show Cause penalty.

LJ;749524 wrote:Unemployable to other universities. Typically though, a violation that warrants a show cause is bad enough for the university to fire the employee, but if they are under contract, it only applies to them seeking another, an extension, or a new contract. Although, I believe that any coach that has been hit with it had already been fired or resigned before the ruling

karen lotz;749540 wrote:Yeah I understand that part but like you said no other coach who has been given Show Cause and still been employed. IF Tressel is given Show Cause, I'd think it would force either OSU to let him go or for him to resign.

Crimson streak;749484 wrote:I think it would be smart for Ohio state to cut ties with tressel. The NCAA will definitely give out a lighter punishment then if they decide to defend tressel

nwofbfan;749486 wrote:My question is, why do they have to wait until August to rule on this issue? Why not now?

WebFire;749552 wrote:Remember, they aren't ruling in August. OSU just gets to defend itself in August. When Michigan was going through stretch-gate, they went before the NCAA in August and didn't know their fate until the season was almost over.

OneBuckeye;749560 wrote:Which is going to be akward timing given that it will be about the time Tressel returns to the sidelines.

WebFire;749550 wrote:I keep hearing this suggested a lot. But is there any proof that this is true? Any case studies where a school let a coach go and the rulings were less? Sure didn't help Michigan when they fired Fisher.

LJ;749544 wrote:Well, I don't think the show cause has every caused someone to get fired, I think it usually comes down after they are unemployed. I think if it gets that bad they are getting fired no matter what. Although, I am not sure he would get hit with it anyway, as every single one has been recruiting violations

karen lotz;749571 wrote:Will be interesting to see what happens with the Tennessee basketball situation. Most people think Pearl was let go to lessen the penalties against the program.

sleeper;749609 wrote:At least we're not Notre Dame...

Y-Town Steelhound;749441 wrote:Thank you. What LJ doesn't understand is that I do believe Tressel is to blame for his actions. But you cannot argue that had the players not done what they did, Tressel would never had been put in the position to make the wrong decision. Doesn't mean I blame the players for Tressel's failures, but their actions put him in the position to make the wrong decision.

OneBuckeye;749472 wrote:The dispatch got all email/phone records from Gee Smith and Tressel and found nothing. What more do you want?

LJ;749473 wrote:It's getting higher percentage that he didn't. With only a few months of emails missing, way after emailgate occured, your changes of being correct are dwindling.

vball10set;749652 wrote:emails yes, but who's to say he didn't say something to one (or both) of them "in confidence", and in person? just a thought

LJ;749666 wrote:So that would come out how? I really think you are stretching with this theory at this point.

vball10set;749673 wrote:LJ, why do you continually feel threatened by someone else having a theory? in the words of Andy Dufrane, stop being so obtuse :rolleyes:

sleeper;749678 wrote:So from what I gather from the NCAA:

$13,385 > The negligent death of a 20 year old

centralbucksfan;749641 wrote:But here is the issue I have. Tressel should have been monitoring these players more closely. Hell, I heard rumblings about Pryor a year or so ago in terms of money and clothes he was wearing. On top of that, some(people I know) fairly close to the program thought Pryor was involved with something. You have to have a pulse on your program and players. Tressel is the head coach, period. It starts with him, and ends with him. If it were only one player, I'd say ok..this is a single circumstance. But we are talking about a handful. And kids this age, don't keep their mouth shut very long about things. I'd bet money Tressel heard about some things even prior to getting the emails. And just as he did with the emails, he turned a blind eye. Thats my two cents.

As for next season..its a wash IMO. It means nothing. Its stained and will be even worse when the players return after their 5 games. The whole thing will be rehashed over and over. I'd luv to fast forward through next year to be honest. I look more forward to basketball(OSU) season right now.