Like I said, what's the difference between 45-44 and 13-12? UC and Texas both had their unimpressive moments today, Texas faced a far better defense.

Texas will be going to the NCG.

jpake1 wrote: I feel the same way about Bama/Texas. But you were taking about TCU/Texas, right?

Yea I worded that post wrong. I don't think it would be a blowout, but I think TCU would control the game.

I think it would be close. But I'd go with Texas. Wouldn't be surprised if TCU won. But I don't think Texas would have a hard time keeping up with TCU.

It's terrible that we even have to have this debate.

There will always be a debate. 64 teams isn't enough in basketball. There are always a few teams that have a legit beef.

jpake1 wrote: There will always be a debate. 64 teams isn't enough in basketball. There are always a few teams that have a legit beef.

True, but you'll never see two undefeated teams left out of the NCAA Tourney.

SQ_Crazies wrote:

2quik4u wrote:

SQ_Crazies wrote: No way in hell TCU would beat Texas.

Alabama reminds me of Mooney--a team on a mission.

Bama 31
Texas 17

TCU's defense >>>>>> Nebraska's Defense

Texas wouldn't do shit against TCU

BAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!! WHAT?!

TCU

#14 BYU 38-7 W , lowest BYU scored all year
#25 Utah 55-28 W
Clemson 14-10, lowest Clemson scored all year


Nebraska

#12 VT 16-15 L, along with another game lowest VT scored all year
Texas Tech 31-10 L,
#2 Texas 13- 12 L, lowest Texas scored all year


TCU>>>Nebraska

Exact science! You should be 2smart4u.

2quik4u....you might possibly have a legitimate debate if those two teams played ONE common opponent. You provided reasoning that compared all uncommon opponents which proves your argument completely bogus. Throw the BYU and Utah ones out the window because the majority of "middle of the road" teams in the SEC, Big Ten, and Big 12 could all play those two closely. To say that TCU deserves a spot over Texas is ludicrous. Do the two equally deserve a chance? Yes. But your comments make it appear as if TCU is far better than Texas and that might be the joke of the season. All the undefeateds have put together great seasons and in turn should get a shot. But unfortunately they won't. Texas will be a fine representative in the National Championship.

Texas 23, Alabama 20

2quik4u wrote:

SQ_Crazies wrote:

2quik4u wrote:

SQ_Crazies wrote: No way in hell TCU would beat Texas.

Alabama reminds me of Mooney--a team on a mission.

Bama 31
Texas 17

TCU's defense >>>>>> Nebraska's Defense

Texas wouldn't do shit against TCU

BAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!! WHAT?!

TCU

#14 BYU 38-7 W , lowest BYU scored all year
#25 Utah 55-28 W
Clemson 14-10, lowest Clemson scored all year


Nebraska

#12 VT 16-15 L, along with another game lowest VT scored all year
Texas Tech 31-10 L,
#2 Texas 13- 12 L, lowest Texas scored all year


TCU>>>Nebraska

Nebraska's defense is so much better than TCU it's almost not worth arguing. They also held Oklahoma to 3 points. The first time OU hasn't scored a touchdown in like 12 years. They beat VaTech 15-10 if not for an 80 yard bomb where the nebraska defender fell with under a minute left. They were one play away in each loss (minus TT) from being 12-1 this year.

TCU definitely has an offense to back up the defense. It makes your defense look better when they get a break every now and then. Nebraska's defense lived on the field and still performed well.

system - BYU, who gave up 54 to Florida State and 38 to TCU also held Oklahoma without a TD after Bradford went out. And Nebraska is one play away THREE times from having ONE loss, while TCU is undefeated and not playing a what-if game.

Nebraska's defense is stout, no doubt about it. But there's nothing in what you said that makes it "not worth arguing".

ESPN did a nice comparison on the three tonight. I will provide what they presented, but I recalculated the opponents' win percentage because I thought TCU's was significantly lower than what ESPN presented and it was:

Cincinnati - 0 losses, 3-0 vs. top 25 teams, opponents' win percentage 0.490, points per game 39.8
TCU - 0 losses, 2-0 vs. top 25 teams, opponents' win percentage 0.486, points per game 40.7
Texas - 0 losses, 2-0 vs. top 25 teams, opponents' win percentage 0.529, points per game 40.7

These three teams are putting up similar PPG and are essentially indifferentiable when it comes to overall record and record against top 25 teams. However, when comparing the opponents' win percentages, it is apparent that Texas has played a tougher schedule than Cinci and TCU. For this reason, and the fact that the BCS does not look at margin of victory in consideration, the best case can be made for Texas.

A 12 team playoff to decide the champion would work...

The other million teams who make irrelevant bowls, can still go to those as well..

You hold the playoff games at BCS sites.

^^Amen to that....Seems to be the most logical decision but i'm sure the sponsors prefer the bowl system because it puts more focus on their individual bowl game for advertisement purposes. It's sad that money controls college football too. Oh wait, money controls everything

I am hoping that this will be one of the more interesting National Championships in a long time. I love how Saban says to Mark May and crew... I extremely paraphrase.

"You guys try to make a Goliath out of someone every time. (Talking about Alabama being talked up, and Texas not). Texas is good! They got to the National Championship for a reason."

Tonight's the big one! I just hope it's a good game worth watching.

gorocks99 wrote: Tonight's the big one! I just hope it's a good game worth watching.

I think it's going to be. If it isn't, what do you think is going to happen? Leaning more toward Bama blowing Texas out or the other way around?

I don't think this will be a blowout. Bama's offense can be pretty solid, but I think it'll all depend on how well McElroy adjusts to the pressure of the NC game, and the quick, pass rushing Texas defense. If Texas can stop Ingram, this game could be a lot closer than people think.

Personally, I'm rooting for Alabama to ROLL (see what I did there?) all over Texas.

Herbie threw out a stat this morning that was interesting, Bama leads the SEC in plays given up over twenty yards, that could be a real problem against Texas.

ytownfootball wrote: Herbie threw out a stat this morning that was interesting, Bama leads the SEC in plays given up over twenty yards, that could be a real problem against Texas.

Depends on if they get pressure on McCoy.

But that is an interesting stat. I just feel that Florida's offense is more explosive than Texas' and Bama shut them down. I think Nicky brings those boys to play tonight.

SQ_Crazies wrote:

gorocks99 wrote: Tonight's the big one! I just hope it's a good game worth watching.

I think it's going to be. If it isn't, what do you think is going to happen? Leaning more toward Bama blowing Texas out or the other way around?

I'm leaning toward Bama blowing Texas out b/c Texas' offense will do nothing. Something like 17-7 at half and 31-17 final. That would qualify as a so-so game for me. I hope Texas proves me wrong.

Teams play at different levels game to game. If Alabama brings the game they did against Florida, Texas will get blown out very badly. However that was Mcelroy's best game I am not sure he will duplicate that effort.

I like Alabama in this game but the #2 teams have won plenty of times and coming in with their heads in the clouds could spell disaster for them.

If Saban has them focused they will roll Texas.

I know that Texas has struggled against every legitimate defense they've played all year, but I'm not sold on Alabama's defense. I can't think of one team that had a powerful offense going into their game with Alabama, so I'm not really sure that the Tide did anything of value in shutting down all the teams they did. I think it may have given them a big head going into this game against an offense that is not to be taken lightly. I'm rooting for Alabama, but I think Texas will win.

j_crazy wrote: I know that Texas has struggled against every legitimate defense they've played all year, but I'm not sold on Alabama's defense. I can't think of one team that had a powerful offense going into their game with Alabama, so I'm not really sure that the Tide did anything of value in shutting down all the teams they did. I think it may have given them a big head going into this game against an offense that is not to be taken lightly. I'm rooting for Alabama, but I think Texas will win.

You don't think Florida has a powerful offense? What about Arkansas who has a QB that will most likely be drafted in the top 15 of the draft in April?

Either way, just by watching them play, it's clear how dominant their defense is. They are VERY good. I think they hold the Longhorns under 17 (something that only 2 teams did this season vs. the Longhorns).