NNN wrote: 4) The fans. I've dealt directly with the fan bases of Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, Florida, and Bammer. Ohio State is worse than all of them...a LOT worse. And if you've never been around any of them, it's difficult to fathom what it's like.

NNN wrote:

bLuE_71 wrote: NNN = DBag

krambman wrote: I suppose it could be both. Generally though I think that you only have a right to dog another team if your team is better than that team. For instance, I may take pleasure in seeing USC do so poorly down the stretch this season, however, because they beat OSU, I'll usually keep my mouth shut about it on here. Or I may love the fact that Florida lost and that Tim Tebow looked like a 12 year old girl who just saw Sanjya on the sideline, but I'm not going to be blasting him or the Gtors around here. That's why I wanted to know who specifically you are a fan of, to see if I should quietly take your bashing of my team because yours is better and therefore I deserve it, or if your just some moron Michigan/ND/whoever fan who hates OSU and has no place to talk.

ytownfootball wrote: Just a hater, no reason given.

Here are my reasons.

1) Local media. I've lived in SEC country, and even in a town the size of Toledo the local teams don't dominate the news the same way that OSU does. When I hear "Armed robbery, three suspects, armed and dangerous, police are still looking.....but first, Ohio State and New Mexico State!" that's just pathetic.

I won't even get into the most basic thing of all, and that's the complete lack of coverage of the lawlessness and laughable academics that held place under John Cooper. The rule was "if it's being reported nationally, we have to report it; if not, then no". This is how things like a starting linebacker being arrested and charged with assault for re-arranging a woman's face with a beer mug in a drunken brawl at 2 AM isn't widely known. Neither, for that matter, were any of the drug-related offenses that took place for 15 years.

2) The arena situations and the unethical behavior of Ohio State as it relates to it. Value City Arena was built at taxpayer expense with two conditions being promised by Ohio State; they violated both. Screw 'em.

3) Personal reasons. A good friend of mine went into the OSU medical center in fairly good health and left in a permanent vegetative state thanks to malpractice committed by two doctors.

4) The fans. I've dealt directly with the fan bases of Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, Florida, and Bammer. Ohio State is worse than all of them...a LOT worse. And if you've never been around any of them, it's difficult to fathom what it's like.

5) The only time my team played OSU, my team won. I'm not going anywhere with that, just pointing it out.

ghosthunter wrote: I could also say to you that having been stationed in Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida, NC, SC and So Cal, that these areas have a plethora of uneducated and ignorant individuals that make up their respective schools fan base. Yes, there are some Buckeye fans on the board that in all likelihood, the best part of them ran down their mother's leg at birth.

At every big time football school in the USA, there are incidents that get overlooked and athletes who have no business being in an institution of higher learning. These traits are not endemic to one particular university by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, I am most definitely a Buckeye fan, however I do admire "quality" programs for the positive traits they exhibit.

I also try to refrain from "flaming" respective schools simply because I don't like them, for the simple reason that it I feel it shows MORE IGNORANCE than maturity and intelligence. If that were the case I would be on every Michigan thread here bashing the Wolverines.

NNN wrote: Either report the news or don't, but don't act like some beacon of neutral journalism when the agenda is obvious.

hangonsloopy wrote: How's the Rose Bowl one coming Krambman?