SportsAndLady;739579 wrote:Unbelievable...

Only at OSU can you have your school's most successful QB be going into his senior year and some fans want him to leave, because of selective retention.

Most successful in what measure? The team measure of wins? In what other measure is he the school's most successful QB? Give me a break. Krenzel won a national championship, but if you gave me the option of him or someone that is a better quarterback then absolutely I take the better option.

I guess you're not comprehending that. You're looking at the big picture (wins) and not the small picture (the terrible passes, the mistakes, the extremely poor choices), and not understanding that we didn't have any better options than Pryor but now we do (Miller), which is why I wouldn't care that he's gone.

Speaking of Krenzel, he's the best example that wins are a TEAM measure and not an individual one.

lhslep134;739613 wrote:I guess you're not comprehending that. You're looking at the big picture (wins) and not the small picture (the terrible passes, the mistakes, the extremely poor choices), and not understanding that we didn't have any better options than Pryor but now we do (Miller), which is why I wouldn't care that he's gone. .

Uhhhh, I donno what tapes you're watching..but try reading a few statistical OSU football history books. Pryor is doing VERY well in a lot of categories.

Like someone already said in this thread, last year he had better numbers than Troy Smith, who won the Heisman.

You called him the most successful QB at OSU.

So in what measures is he the most successful QB at OSU besides the TEAM measure of wins?

LJ;738355 wrote:BTW, Pryor just this past week took time ON HIS OWN to meet and talk to a friend of mine who is dying of cancer. Not a young kid, a 34 year old normal man who is a huge Buckeye fan. A few people get access to practice, but any player that came and talked to them was totally on their own accord.

This isn't meaning to knock Pryor for visiting your friend, but did it have anything to do with the community hours they are supposed to put in? I thought that was a condition of their punishment and it seems that maybe this would qualify. If that is the case, I give Pryor less props. Not that I don't like him as the OSU QB.

Midstate01;739568 wrote:Pretty sure he won that 09 game as wisky. He made great plays on the last drive. Including the game winning run.

Its human nature to only remember the negative. But Pryor has made some great plays in his career. Won some big games!!

In 2009 OSU beat Wisconsin's ass 34-13 in the 'Shoe. You are thinking of the 2008 game in Wisky when Pryor led OSU to a game winning drive.

dwccrew;739958 wrote:This isn't meaning to knock Pryor for visiting your friend, but did it have anything to do with the community hours they are supposed to put in? I thought that was a condition of their punishment and it seems that maybe this would qualify. If that is the case, I give Pryor less props. Not that I don't like him as the OSU QB.

My friend was walking out of the WHAC and Pryor came up from behind him and said "Hey, that's a great jersey!" (he was wearng a #2 jersey) and they bs'd for a while.

Midstate01;739568 wrote:Pretty sure he won that 09 game as wisky. He made great plays on the last drive. Including the game winning run.

Its human nature to only remember the negative. But Pryor has made some great plays in his career. Won some big games!!

I believe you mean '08, but I agree--he was the difference maker in that game. For the record, everyone on here is making some great points regarding Terrelle Pryor, whether it be pro or con, and this shows what a polarizing figure the QB at THE OSU can be. Like him or not, he's our quarterback, and as I said previously, I hope he shuts me up and has an awesome senior season. However, I don't think anyone should be slammed for having an opinion on how they feel about Pryor's off the field issues, no matter how big or small they may seem. When he's in there, I'll be pulling like crazy for him, and I will support him as long as he's wearing the Scarlet and Gray..GO BUCKS!!!

lhslep134;739484 wrote:You make this too easy:

Pryor: See Penn State two years ago in Columbus. He blew that game, no doubt about it. So if he's a great QB because of one game, he's a terrible QB because of one game that he blew. Which one is it? You can't have both. One game doesn't mean anything. OSU's body of work the last 3 years is completely because of the team surrounding Pryor, and not Pryor himself, and if you believe otherwise, you're the ONLY one.

He was also a true freshman (name the last one to QB a team at OSU), and if I remember right passed for over 200 yards. And if he doesn't fumble (trying to make a play), OSU wins that game.

LJ;739514 wrote:Dude, Pryor had better stats this year than Smith did during his Heisman year, and Smith had 5 1st and 2nd rounders around him, Pryor had possibly 1.

Troy Smith had better talent around him- without question.

LJ;740008 wrote:My friend was walking out of the WHAC and Pryor came up from behind him and said "Hey, that's a great jersey!" (he was wearng a #2 jersey) and they bs'd for a while.

Sounds like a jerk to me . . .