OneBuckeye;723964 wrote:No shit and he got a fine and suspension with maybe more coming, again everything you said in your first paragraph is from the first go around. You last line is again insaine, OSU already said they aren't firing tressel how hard is that to understand?

thedynasty1998;723965 wrote:Yes, OSU knew about it previously. However, the fans and boosters didn't. I would imagine Tressel still has support of the fan base, but if he starts to lose that support he then is much easier to let go.

Tressel is great for OSU because he wins games, but also because Boosters love him and he's a good ambassador for the University. But if people start questioning his integrity and start to think he's a liar, then nothing is off limits.

OneBuckeye;723957 wrote:Exactly my point. That is why this email isn't a big deal because the NCAA already knew about it. It all depends on who he forwarded it to, like other coaches, gene smith etc as to how much trouble Tress/OSU will be in. If he had done so, I think self punishment would have already been issued. They did say at the presser that Tressel is as far as it went at OSU, so as an OSU fan I hope that is the case. If it came out that he emailed it to Gene Smith, then OSU is in deep shit, if they didn't tell that to the NCAA back in Feburary. Because OSU says that Tressel is as far as it went at OSU then forwarding it to a "mentor" is not a big deal. It doesn't change the fact that he didn't come forward with the info and played the players knowing they were ineligable. All things we already knew. Nothing new.

Also OSU and NCAA already knew about this, so its not like OSU just found out he forwarded it to him, this is not going to make them fire Tressel because they knew this already. The fire tressel people think OSU found out about this today and will now react. They did and it was a 2 game suspension, 250k fine.

thedynasty1998;723967 wrote:OSU also imposed a 2 game suspension and thought that would be sufficient. The NCAA may force OSU's hand. I really don't think it will come to that, but I do think the NCAA will have a bigger penalty that many want to believe.

OneBuckeye;723968 wrote:You are right, but if you are a booster and watched the press confrence question about forwarding emails and now you are suprised the he forwarded it to someone, you would have to be incredibly stupid. No one is freaking out about this "new" information other than OSU haters.

WebFire;723973 wrote:I would say the only ones not freaking out are the OSU homers who don't want Tressel to be gone. And that is acrossed multiple message boards and all my OSU friends.

OneBuckeye;723979 wrote: But, I don't like it when someone does to my school.

ksig489;723953 wrote: What I do think is funny is that all of the OSU fans who trashed Michigan when they were being looked at and were calling for the death penalty are all of a sudden scrambling like rats when the lights come on.

WebFire;723980 wrote:Bingo.

Originally Posted by ksig489
What I do think is funny is that all of the OSU fans who trashed Michigan when they were being looked at and were calling for the death penalty are all of a sudden scrambling like rats when the lights come on.

OneBuckeye;723968 wrote:You are right, but if you are a booster and watched the press confrence question about forwarding emails and now you are suprised the he forwarded it to someone, you would have to be incredibly stupid. No one is freaking out about this "new" information other than OSU haters.

OneBuckeye;723971 wrote:I agree, that is why Tressel asked for 5 games. OSU is doing this investigation with the NCAA and I think they had a good feel for what the extra punishment was going to be, thus the extra 3 games. That way the NCAA comes out and says 5 games is OK then OSU/Tressel will look better. I don't know if that will happen but we will see. I don't think they go for more because the ones that committed the crime got 5 so I doubt it would be more, but stranger things have happend.

OneBuckeye;723983 wrote:I'm sure you feel the same about UM. Nothing wrong with that.

thedynasty1998;723984 wrote:It's not that he did indeed forward them. It's that he hung his hat on confidentiality for his reason of not forwarding to compliance, and that he didn't know who to turn to with the information. That is a lie, because he turned to some PA businessman, or all people. You find out your star player commits a NCAA violation and you contact a businessman in another state, but don't inform your bosses? That just doesn't look good.



You can't compare Tressel's punishment to the players. Yes, the players committed a violation, but they are claiming that they weren't aware it was a violation. Tressel knew it was a violation when it came to his attention and then lied about it.

WebFire;723987 wrote:Sure. But I was able to take it head on and try to separate facts from fiction. I didn't just claim innocence and defend everyone's actions.

OneBuckeye;723988 wrote:Wasn't the PA buisnessman was Terrell's guardian at some point in his life, his closest thing to a father figure....

OneBuckeye;723968 wrote:No one is freaking out about this "new" information other than OSU haters.

thedynasty1998;723965 wrote:Yes, OSU knew about it previously. However, the fans and boosters didn't. I would imagine Tressel still has support of the fan base, but if he starts to lose that support he then is much easier to let go.

Tressel is great for OSU because he wins games, but also because Boosters love him and he's a good ambassador for the University. But if people start questioning his integrity and start to think he's a liar, then nothing is off limits.

WebFire;723981 wrote:QFT

OneBuckeye;723983 wrote:...
QUE? I would have never wanted UM to have the DP, what would the fun be in that. When was this again?

thedynasty1998;723993 wrote:Who knows? I remember Charlie Batch also being his "father figure".

Was this businessman a part of his life when he was in 6th grade? I don't know.

jordo212000;724002 wrote:Another key aspect here... what did Tress hope to accomplish by telling this mentor? Why couldn't he talk to TP himself and express what he told the mentor? What could this mentor actually "do" about this situation?

Why couldn't he tell TP's mom?

jordo212000;723995 wrote:Wrong.

Buckeye fan here and I can see plenty of smoke right now. I have said all along that I envisioned this situation getting uglier as time goes on.

Dynasty makes the key point. He clung to the confidentiality BS all along as being the reason he sat on this information, and now we are finding out that this information wasn't so "confidential" that he couldn't tell TP's mentor.

OneBuckeye;724006 wrote:TP's mom is mess, she lives with TP in dublin...

He obviously talked to these guys about it because he wanted more names before he gave the new rings out. He probably wanted to make sure everyone got their ass chewed out that deserved it.

bigkahuna;724008 wrote:I'm just curious (no trolling or anything) as to why he lives all the way out in Dublin instead of close to campus/in campus housing or something. Don't athletes usually room together?