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Mar 25, 2011 9:21 AM
jordo212000;723858 wrote:Also, I'm not so sure that this mentor guy thing is going to end well. He is a "prominent businessman" that is 67 years old and he befriended TP? Huh? I'm close to TP's age and I can't imagine befriending any dude that is close to 70 years old.

I'm not accusing TP of anything, but if I were an investigative reporter, I might be looking into this guy.


Why? He went on recruiting visits with him, I am pretty sure it has already been looked into.
Mar 25, 2011 9:21am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:32 AM
Its not hte crime....its the coverup!


He said he didnt do anything with the emails because they were part of the federal investigation, but that was a lie.

Have a web of lies here..........each one is a scoop deaper in his own grave.
Mar 25, 2011 9:32am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:33 AM
LJ;723865 wrote:Why? He went on recruiting visits with him, I am pretty sure it has already been looked into.

The "mentor" makes me nervous, but he's a separate issue and isn't a booster of OSU or have any ties to OSU so it's not really worth worrying about.
Mar 25, 2011 9:33am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:34 AM
thavoice;723876 wrote:Its not hte crime....its the coverup!


He said he didnt do anything with the emails because they were part of the federal investigation, but that was a lie.

Have a web of lies here..........each one is a scoop deaper in his own grave.
Everyone wanted to ignore Tressel's lies at the press conference, but they are coming to the forefront. Tressel didn't commit a violation by lying to the media and OSU fans at the presser, but I think he insulted everyone's intelligence by saying he didn't know who to turn to and that he didn't go forward because of confidentiality.
Mar 25, 2011 9:34am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:36 AM
thedynasty1998;723878 wrote:The "mentor" makes me nervous, but he's a separate issue and isn't a booster of OSU or have any ties to OSU so it's not really worth worrying about.

Ed Martin wasn't a booster either. Look how that turned out.
Mar 25, 2011 9:36am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:36 AM
thedynasty1998;723878 wrote:The "mentor" makes me nervous, but he's a separate issue and isn't a booster of OSU or have any ties to OSU so it's not really worth worrying about.

Pretty sure it's not an issue and they already had a relationship back in the day.
Mar 25, 2011 9:36am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:38 AM
http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-is-ted-sarniak.html

If you do a search on Ted Sarniak that's the first thing that comes up. Can't find anything else out there, so not speculating anything, but just wanted to throw it out there.
Mar 25, 2011 9:38am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:41 AM
Sarniak has a business in Dublin? Never heard of him
Mar 25, 2011 9:41am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:41 AM
thedynasty1998;723881 wrote: but I think he insulted everyone's intelligence by saying he didn't know who to turn to and that he didn't go forward because of confidentiality.

What? Isn't it obvious who you turn to when your best player commits an NCAA violation? You tell the player's mentor and then hide from everybody else who might need to know this information
Mar 25, 2011 9:41am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:43 AM
"Mr. Sarniak and Terrelle Pryor have been friends for a number of years, and their friendship dates back prior to Terrelle's enrollment at Ohio State," Archie said in an email to The Dispatch. "As the friendship developed, Mr. Sarniak is someone who Terrelle has reached out to for advice and guidance throughout his high-school and collegiate career."

Archie said the university thoroughly examined the relationship between Sarniak and Pryor before the nation's top college recruit arrived on campus as a freshman in 2008.
Shady? Yes

Within the rules? Yes
Mar 25, 2011 9:43am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:43 AM
LJ;723884 wrote:Pretty sure it's not an issue and they already had a relationship back in the day.

I won't as quick to say it's not an issue, but it's not worth speculating. Just strange that of all people, he's the one Tressel would contact with the emails.
Mar 25, 2011 9:43am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:45 AM
It was Sarniak whose Corvette Pryor was driving around Jeanette correct?
Mar 25, 2011 9:45am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:46 AM
Terry_Tate;723888 wrote:http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-is-ted-sarniak.html

If you do a search on Ted Sarniak that's the first thing that comes up. Can't find anything else out there, so not speculating anything, but just wanted to throw it out there.

That article scares me, but I question the objectivity.
Mar 25, 2011 9:46am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:47 AM
thedynasty1998;723897 wrote:It was Sarniak whose Corvette Pryor was driving around Jeanette correct?

I think so, but with the proper prior relationship, it's not an issue.
Mar 25, 2011 9:47am
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thedynasty1998;723895 wrote:I won't as quick to say it's not an issue, but it's not worth speculating. Just strange that of all people, he's the one Tressel would contact with the emails.

I think this may actually become interesting. And LJ, you aren't going to know the illegal stuff going on (if there is any) until it becomes known. No one knew Ed Martin was handing out cash either, but he was.
Mar 25, 2011 9:47am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:48 AM
WebFire;723901 wrote:I think this may actually become interesting. And LJ, you aren't going to know the illegal stuff going on (if there is any) until it becomes known. No one knew Ed Martin was handing out cash either, but he was.

Ed Martin didn't have prior relationships with the athletes.
Mar 25, 2011 9:48am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:49 AM
LJ;723903 wrote:Ed Martin didn't have prior relationships with the athletes.

Might want to read up on your history of that situation.
Mar 25, 2011 9:49am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:50 AM
jordo212000;723842 wrote:Ok.. so do you think that he told Gene Smith and the Compliance department about all of this stuff? I hope he didn't, because if he did, the NCAA will mop up the floor with Ohio State. (We didn't report any violations to the NCAA towards the end of the year when they did the Compliance Report.)

I guess Tress didn't technically say "I did not forward this email to anybody" but if you read between the lines, that's what he was leading us to believe. He was worried about confidentiality!

Some of you guys see the positive here that he was "afraid for TP" and that is why he told his mentor. I see the opposite here. Why the F is he telling TP's mentor? But not telling Gene Smith?
WebFire;723846 wrote:At least some can see it without bias.

I am not saying he didn't inform smith or the AD and I too hope he didn't. I never said he was afraid for TP and never gave a reason for why he would forward it. But he never said at his press confrence that he didn't forward it to anyone because it was part of the NCAA investigation. Everyone claiming he lied again is wrong because of this and making a hoopla over nothing. Watch the press confrence again and show me where he said he never forwarded this information to anyone.
Mar 25, 2011 9:50am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:51 AM
LJ;723899 wrote:I think so, but with the proper prior relationship, it's not an issue.

They became "friends" while TP was dominating in high school and this guy is a rich, old guy. Nothing about that relationship seems normal or proper
Mar 25, 2011 9:51am
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OneBuckeye;723906 wrote:I am not saying he didn't inform smith or the AD and I too hope he didn't. I never said he was afraid for TP and never gave a reason for why he would forward it. But he never said at his press confrence that he didn't forward it to anyone because it was part of the NCAA investigation. Everyone claiming he lied again is wrong because of this and making a hoopla over nothing. Watch the press confrence again and show me where he said he never forwarded this information to anyone.

It's more the Buckeye fans who think the whole thing is no big deal. I think it is a big deal, and those folks will be mightily surprised.
Mar 25, 2011 9:51am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:51 AM
WebFire;723904 wrote:Might want to read up on your history of that situation.

I have. Ed Martin was determined to be a booster who was also laundering money (or illegal gambling, can't remember) who was paying players.

This guy seems to have a long standing relationship with Pryor that dates back to pre recruitment and he accompianied Pryor on recruiting visits as his mentor.
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Mar 25, 2011 9:52 AM
jordo212000;723908 wrote:They became "friends" while TP was dominating in high school and this guy is a rich, old guy. Nothing about that relationship seems normal or proper

I'll say it again. Ed Martin.
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Mar 25, 2011 9:54 AM
LJ;723911 wrote:I have. Ed Martin was determined to be a booster who was also laundering money (or illegal gambling, can't remember) who was paying players.

This guy seems to have a long standing relationship with Pryor that dates back to pre recruitment and he accompianied Pryor on recruiting visits as his mentor.

Research it better. Ed Martin was not a booster until the NCAA tournament their freshman year. He was only given booster status by the NCAA because he accepted a free hotel room from the University at the tournament. Prior to that, he was not a booster.

Ed Martin also mentored these players going back to jr. high school. And he also went on recruiting visits. And he was also paying them, or giving them gifts.
Mar 25, 2011 9:54am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:54 AM
WebFire;723912 wrote:I'll say it again. Ed Martin.

Martin had a relationship with the university
Mar 25, 2011 9:54am
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Mar 25, 2011 9:54 AM
OneBuckeye;723906 wrote:I am not saying he didn't inform smith or the AD and I too hope he didn't. I never said he was afraid for TP and never gave a reason for why he would forward it. But he never said at his press confrence that he didn't forward it to anyone because it was part of the NCAA investigation. Everyone claiming he lied again is wrong because of this and making a hoopla over nothing. Watch the press confrence again and show me where he said he never forwarded this information to anyone.

See post 20 in this thread from bigkahuna
Mar 25, 2011 9:54am