dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Jun 24, 2011 2:55pm
haden is everywhere. great to have him repping the city.
also, tristan needs to bulk up. he's going to get pushed around badly on the block. a long lockout may be good for him to add muscle before getting thrown into the fire
also, tristan needs to bulk up. he's going to get pushed around badly on the block. a long lockout may be good for him to add muscle before getting thrown into the fire
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 24, 2011 2:56pm
ThisEllis wants out of golden state. Use that trade exception and JJ and get it done!!!!
JerseyBuck
Posts: 429
Jun 24, 2011 3:01pm
BR1986FB;812847 wrote:Haden is the man. He may be the face of the Browns franchise. I know that's probably supposed to be McCoy's job but Haden is everywhere doing nothing but good for the city.
Haden is great. He was at the Cavs draft party last night too. Had on a Jamison jersey and sported a Cavs "tattoo". At this point, i'm wondering when he announces he's going to become a minority owner with the Cavs haha
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jun 24, 2011 3:30pm
Midstate01;812809 wrote:Ellis wants out of golden state. Use that trade exception and JJ and get it done!!!!
Only problem is you can't trade a player with the TPE. There would have to be 2 separate deals.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 24, 2011 3:40pm
Wooball;812896 wrote:Only problem is you can't trade a player with the TPE. There would have to be 2 separate deals.
Yeah. Thats usually not too tough to deal with
Anyways, I wouldnt want Ellis on this team.....it be nice if the Cavs could find a way to get Rudy out of Memphis
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 24, 2011 3:41pm
KR1245;812900 wrote:Yeah. Thats usually not too tough to deal with
Anyways, I wouldnt want Ellis on this team.....it be nice if the Cavs could find a way to get Rudy out of Memphis
Agreed, I'd be estatic, Doubt he's moved at all though. Not really any pressure on Memphis to move him.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 24, 2011 3:55pm
Commander of Awesome;812901 wrote:Agreed, I'd be estatic, Doubt he's moved at all though. Not really any pressure on Memphis to move him.
I dont understand how they are going to be able to keep all their guys. They just paid Randolph a ton of money and you know that Gasol is going to get paid. I dont think they have any pressure to move him either but I could see it happening
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 24, 2011 4:31pm
I'd love to have Ellis. Dude's a scorer.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 24, 2011 4:38pm
Ellis is a hell of a scorer, and honestly i think if hes in the right system he will play defense. Nobody at allllllllll plays D for golden state. He has all the tools to be a good defender at his position
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 24, 2011 5:15pm
From listening to the radio today, it seems like a lot of people are poo-pooing the Cavs pick of Thompson. I pretty much agree. I mean I could be wrong, but any time I hear somebody say a prospect "must become a better low-post scorer" I probably run the other direction. The way I understand it, he can rebound and block shots, but that's it? That's all you want from the 4th pick?
I would have either pick Jonas or Jan Vesely at #4. I'd hate to hear that the Cavs reasoning for passing up on Jonas V was that they might have to wait a year. That would be a joke.
I would have either pick Jonas or Jan Vesely at #4. I'd hate to hear that the Cavs reasoning for passing up on Jonas V was that they might have to wait a year. That would be a joke.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 24, 2011 5:57pm
^^^Dont be an idiot no that's not ALL he can do...that's what he's proven he can do. Everything else he has the potential to do well its just not consistently there yet. This is a process its gonna take some time
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 24, 2011 6:12pm
I have heard it go both ways. There seems to be quite a few people in the media that liked the Cavs 1st round picks. I wasnt a huge fan of the Thompson pick at first but I am starting to come around.
Most of the prospects outside of Irving and Williams seem to have some flaws in their game. No matter who the Cavs drafted at 4 the chances were pretty good that there would be some areas that they need to improve on. The knock on Jonas was that he cant create his own shot and gets pushed around by bigger defenders. Vesley has been referred to as an "energy guy", there isnt anything about his game that really stands out. Point that I'm making is all of these top picks had some question marks. Thompson might have some work to do but no more than any of the guys that were picked after him
Most of the prospects outside of Irving and Williams seem to have some flaws in their game. No matter who the Cavs drafted at 4 the chances were pretty good that there would be some areas that they need to improve on. The knock on Jonas was that he cant create his own shot and gets pushed around by bigger defenders. Vesley has been referred to as an "energy guy", there isnt anything about his game that really stands out. Point that I'm making is all of these top picks had some question marks. Thompson might have some work to do but no more than any of the guys that were picked after him
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 24, 2011 7:48pm
They had Chris Grant on WKNR this afternoon and it sounded like Thompson was the target at #4 all along. Now that could just be GM "spin" but he said he was the target. Roda was trying to hold Grant's feet to the fire regarding all of the forwards they targeted in the draft and Grant turned it on him and made Roda look like an ass.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 24, 2011 7:53pm
BR1986FB;813082 wrote:They had Chris Grant on WKNR this afternoon and it sounded like Thompson was the target at #4 all along. Now that could just be GM "spin" but he said he was the target. Roda was trying to hold Grant's feet to the fire regarding all of the forwards they targeted in the draft and Grant turned it on him and made Roda look like an ass.
That shouldnt have been too hard
If the Cavs had Thompson as the best player available on their board I'm fine with the pick. This team isnt going to compete anytime soon, get the bpa and go on from there. The 2012 draft class is going to be loaded with wing players, they can address the 2 and 3 at that time
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 24, 2011 7:57pm
KR1245;813087 wrote: If the Cavs had Thompson as the best player available on their board I'm fine with the pick. This team isnt going to compete anytime soon, get the bpa and go on from there. The 2012 draft class is going to be loaded with wing players, they can address the 2 and 3 at that time
See, these are my thoughts. Next years draft should have some very good players and I'm hearing that in the early mocks, Harrison Barnes isn't even the top player. Depending on what they do in free agency, we can only hope this team is a lottery team again in 2012. Irving, Thompson and next years' draft choices should be a very nice start toward righting the ship.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jun 24, 2011 8:04pm
I really want barnes. He is going to be a stud!
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jun 24, 2011 8:11pm
Monta Ellis ==Ricky Davis. Horrible. Golden State will give him away for a bag of peanuts.SportsAndLady;812928 wrote:I'd love to have Ellis. Dude's a scorer.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 24, 2011 8:21pm
BR1986FB;813091 wrote:See, these are my thoughts. Next years draft should have some very good players and I'm hearing that in the early mocks, Harrison Barnes isn't even the top player. Depending on what they do in free agency, we can only hope this team is a lottery team again in 2012. Irving, Thompson and next years' draft choices should be a very nice start toward righting the ship.
I think the lockout will almost guarantee that.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jun 24, 2011 9:52pm
Local radio trashed the pick. National radio liked it. I'll take national over the jokes on knr
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jun 24, 2011 9:58pm
Local radio trashed the pick. National radio liked it. I'll take national over the jokes on knr
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 24, 2011 10:02pm
Footwedge;813098 wrote:Monta Ellis ==Ricky Davis. Horrible. Golden State will give him away for a bag of peanuts.
lulz, never failing to entertain
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 24, 2011 11:40pm
According to some "insiders", Tristan Thompson worked out twice with the Cavs. He was in during the same time as Derrick and Enes, and I guess he did VERY well against those two.
He also showed more "drive" than both of them.
Like I said, I'm very happy with the picks. I think Thompson is already better than JJ, he just needs the offensive polish.
Anyway, here's a nice little vid of Kyrie Irving
[video=youtube;XnI7Gz-0IGk][/video]
He also showed more "drive" than both of them.
Like I said, I'm very happy with the picks. I think Thompson is already better than JJ, he just needs the offensive polish.
Anyway, here's a nice little vid of Kyrie Irving
[video=youtube;XnI7Gz-0IGk][/video]
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 25, 2011 2:08am
He's so quick and has unbelievable ball handeling ability. I'm really excited to see this kid win CHAMPIONSHIPS.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 25, 2011 7:47am
bases_loaded;813155 wrote:Local radio trashed the pick. National radio liked it. I'll take national over the jokes on knr
Roda is a bitch. He thinks he's "Basketball Jones" or something because he was some scrub that played at B-W. Talking about how he should have a shot at playing for the Cavs with his career 70% free throw shooting over Thompson's 48%. BFD...I'm the airball king and I can hit 7 out of 10 free throws. He just likes to whine about EVERYTHING. Best advice I could give to him is "go back to Shitburgh ya freakin' OSU/Cavs bandwagoner."
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 25, 2011 8:53am
I am so anxious to hear what fedor has to say.....sigh