KR1245;712085 wrote:eh, I thought it was OK
I agree with the guys on The Fan. The first part of it was pretty entertaining, the second part seemed like an infomercial. I dont need to hear the "should student athletes gets paid" argument anymore. These kids knew what they were getting into.
KR1245;712085 wrote:I dont need to hear the "should student athletes gets paid" argument anymore. These kids knew what they were getting into.
ccrunner609;712162 wrote:I beg to differ....you have to remember this was the era that started the shoe deals and the jersey sales. just a few years before their time Michigan was making $1.5 million in sports royalties and after they were making $10.5 million during and after.
KR1245;712179 wrote:I understand that and I understand the argument. I just didnt want to hear about it during the show. Thats how college athletics work, its not like the Fab Five were the first group of kids looking for a payday.
ccrunner609;712162 wrote:I beg to differ....you have to remember this was the era that started the shoe deals and the jersey sales. just a few years before their time Michigan was making $1.5 million in sports royalties and after they were making $10.5 million during and after.
friendfromlowry;712178 wrote:Exactly. Guys like Chris Webber go to "college" for two years and have to be dirt poor during it but then afterwards they go to the NBA and probably never have to worry about another dime. Meanwhile, most college students will graduate with a considerable amount of debt that will require years to pay off. So yeah, it's hard to sit here and feel sorry for them.
ytownfootball;712243 wrote:When there is as much money floating around as a result of these players contributions, there will be Fab5's, SMU's Cam Newton's and bogus tattoo shops...if we're not going to pay them a piece of the pie (I don't like the idea of paying them BTW) then we have to accept the consequences and investigations. There really is no other answer, too hard to run a tight ship of over a hundred players for anyone.
thedynasty1998;712248 wrote:Well said. I don't think there is any system where it would be "fair" to pay players. However, there are certain players that are absolutely exploited and make their respective Universities millions.
We live in a greedy and selfish society, and especially in cases where you have kids who grow up with no money and it becomes accessible, it's just going to happen.
thedynasty1998;712241 wrote:Most students don't bring in $9 million for their respective Universities. I don't think players should be paid, but you can't say that the system is place is fair to the student athletes. The whole "They get their college paid for" argument is such a poor argument for guys like this.
thedynasty1998;712241 wrote:The first quote is the answer to the second quote.
Most students don't bring in $9 million for their respective Universities. I don't think players should be paid, but you can't say that the system is place is fair to the student athletes. The whole "They get their college paid for" argument is such a poor argument for guys like this.
Exactly. The college level enables these athletes to move on the the pros, where they make millions. For the ones that don't go pro, they get a free education.friendfromlowry;712295 wrote:Poor argument how? It's not like Michigan made millions off of him and he didn't benefit from his time there. He played a couple seasons, showed people what he could really do, and was able to become the #1 pick in the draft. While he wasn't given his part of the pie at Michigan, he eventually did earn millions of dollars in the NBA.
He deserved his piece of the pie from Michigan. What was the cost his two years at UM and what was the return? That is a helluva an investment return for whomever received the money.While he wasn't given his part of the pie at Michigan, he eventually did earn millions of dollars in the NBA.
Prescott;712313 wrote:He deserved his piece of the pie from Michigan.
Prescott;712313 wrote:He deserved his piece of the pie from Michigan. What was the cost his two years at UM and what was the return? That is a helluva an investment return for whomever received the money.
friendfromlowry;712330 wrote:You can say that about a lot of college athletes. Luck deserves a piece of the pie from Stanford, Pryor & OSU, John Wall and Kentucky, Oden and OSU, etc. But that's now how college athletics work, and these guys damn well know that going in they can't legally earn a dime...but they sure as will if they play their cards right.
WebFire;712298 wrote:Exactly. The college level enables these athletes to move on the the pros, where they make millions. For the ones that don't go pro, they get a free education.
How is that not fair?
Yes, they provide a platform for them to go to the pros, however, for that school that they do pick, they make them money.WebFire;712332 wrote:They get "paid" with the exposure they get so that they can go on to make much more than the university made from them. I don't understand why people think college players should get paid. Why even have college athletics?
KR1245;712344 wrote:Agreed
It seemed like Jalen Rose, who helped produce the show had an agenda. "Its OK to take money, look how much money we made for the university". I might be wrong but thats what I took from it. I agree with Webfire, college kids should not get paid, thats the difference between the NBA and NCAA. If they wanted to make money they could have entered the draft.
Because they are being pimped by the NCAA and the schools.I don't understand why people think college players should get paid.
Prescott;712464 wrote:Because they are being pimped by the NCAA and the schools.
Prescott;712464 wrote:Because they are being pimped by the NCAA and the schools.
thedynasty1998;712386 wrote:Yea, the Fab 5 could have. But kids today can't. They are being forced to go make money for a University. Still have no idea how that is legal.
swamisez;711758 wrote:Of course growing up a Duke fan I disliked Michigan for the very reasons Michigan players disliked Duke. I felt Michigan was a bunch of thugged out ruffians who didn't belong in the college game.
Thenctions kind of validated this point, but I am admittedly biased on this point. Thomas Hill, Grant Hill, Brian Davis were from good families and if memory serves were not public school educated.
Coach K changed his stance a bit with the recruitment and signing of St.Louis native Chris Carrawell and Chicago kid Sean Dockery. Of course Duke got flack for signing Dockery because of his lower than normal test scores. But I guess it was so out of character it was a magnet for criticism.
As for the Fab 5, great time in college hoops. Really exploded on the scene and made college basketball trendy and empowered players more so than coaches. I feel at that time coaches dominated the headlines (K, Dean, Carlisemo, Tark, Pitino) but with the fab 5 the players now became brand managers.
Start by giving the players the proceeds from anything sold with their name on it.They are, but what's your solution?
What did you think about Dahntay Jones? He is considered a "dirty player" by many in the NBA and had the same rep in college.I felt Michigan was a bunch of thugged out ruffians
Well known for academics - going into Sr year of High School Dockery had a 2.3 GPA and a 15 on his ACT. He eventually qualified.Of course Duke got flack for signing Dockery because of his lower than normal test scores. But I guess it was so out of character it was a magnet for criticism.
Prescott;712797 wrote:Start by giving the players the proceeds from anything sold with their name on it.
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