QuakerOats;682771 wrote:My, my, my; where was the outrage on (p)msnbc last night regarding the dramatic lack of civility demonstrated by the protestors in Wisconsin. Imagine .... they even had signs comparing Walker to Hitler, but the 'network' decided to talk about something else.

The Tea Party was blasted for their gatherings, but public unions get a free pass. A new ULTRA-low in reporting, and I thought they could not get any worse. Laughable.

ptown_trojans_1;682867 wrote:Shocker: I agree.
I saw some of the signs, and while I'm sure they do not represent a majority of the protesters, it makes the lefties look like hypocrites.

CinciX12;682922 wrote:Why would the vote be allowed to be taken with only 1 Democratic senator present. Why wouldn't you need at least half of each party there?

QuakerOats;682948 wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/17/AR2011021705494.html

The president resorting back to his activist/agitator uprbringing by endorsing union thug tactics again. Are there any adults in his administration?

Erpenbach said the group had been in Rockford, Ill., but they dispersed by late afternoon.

In response to a question of where she was, Sen. Lena Taylor sent a tweet saying she was "doing the people's business. Power to the PEOPLE."

Thursday's events were reminiscent of a 2003 dispute in Texas, where Democrats twice fled the state to prevent adoption of a redistricting bill designed to give Republicans more seats in Congress. The bill passed a few months later.

Unions still could represent workers, but could not seek pay increases above those pegged to the Consumer Price Index unless approved by a public referendum. Unions also could not force employees to pay dues and would have to hold annual votes to stay organized.

Under Walker's plan, most public workers - excluding police, firefighters and state troopers - would have to pay half of their pension costs and at least 12 percent of their health-care costs. They would lose bargaining rights for anything other than pay. Walker, who took office last month, says the emergency measure would save $300 million over the next two years to help close a $3.6 billion budget gap.

Unions also could not force employees to pay dues and would have to hold annual votes to stay organized.

CenterBHSFan;683064 wrote:I don't see how this is all that bad. Seriously, I do not.

Plus, as somebody else listed above:



What's the fear, here? Because I don't think it's all about the integrity of the jobs, people have skin in the game - they're looking out for #1 also. So... what's the REAL fear that's being blown up here?

stlouiedipalma;683072 wrote:Sorry, I made that last post without looking at the numbers which were quoted. Saving $300 million over a budget with a $3.6 billion deficit should go a long way toward balancing things, don't you think? If I had to guess, I'd say that Walker and Co. are doing this for the political advantage.

stlouiedipalma;683087 wrote:Sorry, I don't see it that way. It looks to me as if the Wisconsin Republicans are using their numbers to strong-arm their agenda. Sound familiar?

to help close a $3.6 billion budget gap

stlouiedipalma;683087 wrote:Sorry, I don't see it that way. It looks to me as if the Wisconsin Republicans are using their numbers to strong-arm their agenda. Sound familiar?

Manhattan Buckeye;683104 wrote:They are the ones subverting the democratic process? They are the ones hiding out of state?

Really?

redstreak one;683099 wrote:Center, I agree its a start. But man, where in the world are they going to find the other 3.5 Billion?