imex99;697763 wrote:Do you know how many college students take those evaluations serious, not many!!!!
Now, what about merit raises for police & fire? How many burning buildings they enter or how many speeding tickets, DUI, drug busts they get in a month?
WebFire;697963 wrote:You nitwits. I'm not even a teacher. I am for SB5. But how can you not see this simple thing.
Writer, learning has nothing to do with it. It's an extra job not part of your regular duties. You are compensated extra and separately. The end.
Another example?
Teacher A is a 6th grade math teacher and makes $50k.
Teacher B is also a 6th grade math teacher and makes $50k.
Teacher B is also the Head Varsity Football coach for $10k, Varsity track coach for $8k, and Junior Class Advisor for $3k.
Who has the higher TEACHER salary?
sleeper;697886 wrote:I think the hilarious notion in all of this is teachers(and all public employees) are now going to be making minimum wage and working in terrible conditions.
The real question is, are teachers this ignorant, or are they just protecting their outrageous compensation package? If its the former, GTFO; if its the latter, selfish POS.
I'm specifically referring to supplemental contracts for teachers. Nothing else.Writerbuckeye;697982 wrote:
As for your last comment: Not everywhere, and not even in every public sector job. I did plenty of things in my jobs in the private sector that weren't technically part of my job duties, but I did it to help out co-workers, the company or both. It was part of being a team player.
I Wear Pants;697981 wrote:I think you're really overinflating the coaching salaries.
/arguingthingsthataren'timportant
Ty Webb;698007 wrote:I hope every single public employee strikes and marches right to the door of Kasich's office and break the fucking thing down
Ty Webb;698011 wrote:Why.....because it's bullshit that Kasich is doing something that will cost money
bigkahuna;698014 wrote:Strike? Yes. Protest? Yes. "Let's go break down the door of the governor's mansion!" NO.
Ty Webb;698025 wrote:basesloaded......
You do realize that a majority of people support collective bargaining for public employees right?
ccrunner609;698035 wrote:Schools are going to operate in a less efficiant manner....more testing and evaluations are going to cost kids quality class time. Teaching of tests to make sure they pass standardized tests and not giving them a good education.
More ignorance. No one said this would balance the budget. It is merely one small part to fiscal responsibility.ccrunner609;698016 wrote:no reason to, a year from now when the state budget isnt fixed (since they said this move would), the almighty private sctor will take care of that.
WebFire;698039 wrote:More ignorance. No one said this would balance the budget. It is merely one small part to fiscal responsibility.
I also don't know why you all are crying. The added back in CBA for wages. So this bill lost a lot of it's balls anyway.
ccrunner609;698035 wrote:Schools are going to operate in a less efficiant manner....more testing and evaluations are going to cost kids quality class time. Teaching of tests to make sure they pass standardized tests and not giving them a good education.
You just made all of that up.ccrunner609;698035 wrote:Schools are going to operate in a less efficiant manner....more testing and evaluations are going to cost kids quality class time. Teaching of tests to make sure they pass standardized tests and not giving them a good education.
Writerbuckeye;697982 wrote:I'm sure there was a time when all of those "extra" things were included in a teacher's salary, and it was probably through the unions that they got "separated" for extra pay.
As for your last comment: Not everywhere, and not even in every public sector job. I did plenty of things in my jobs in the private sector that weren't technically part of my job duties, but I did it to help out co-workers, the company or both. It was part of being a team player.
Union members don't know what that even means. If it doesn't begin with the letter "I" it's not worth worrying about.
ccrunner609;698032 wrote:One thing that is for sure.................there isnt a soul alive that knows what this is going to do. Nobody knows what "merit" pay is going to do.
Hilarious.ccrunner609;698035 wrote:Schools are going to operate in a less efficiant manner....more testing and evaluations are going to cost kids quality class time. Teaching of tests to make sure they pass standardized tests and not giving them a good education.
ccrunner609;698061 wrote:you just made my point.......now they are tagging teacher pay to stuff like this that are measures of success and progress, its gonna be done alot more.