CenterBHSFan;690187 wrote:Why have your union dues gone up? What extra service are you getting out of the union to warrant their dues going up?
imex99;690592 wrote:Getting raped by the state.... Allowing them to keep taking benefits and nothing in return! Once you lose it, your never getting in back!
But hey! The "higher ups" in the union are getting more money in their pocket! The more money they have, the better off the public union worker is, eh?O-Trap;690605 wrote:If the state were to do that, they'd be losing teachers by the hundreds every month. They'd eventually have to shut down schools. They'd get their own funding cut. They'd lose their jobs.
And they know this. They know it's not AT ALL in their best interest to strip all compensation away to the bare bones. If they did what you're afraid of, they'd be committing occupational and financial suicide ... and they know it.
Yes it would. But you won't catch this public employee doing it.WebFire;690456 wrote:Probably, yes. But it would be more productive for public employees too.
Lol! ernest and gblock post during the day on here (which I have no problem with since I am sure it's during their free time) and they are public employees. Likewise, I post during my free time. My work does not suffer and my boss has no complaints.bonelizzard;690689 wrote:Yes it would. But you won't catch this public employee doing it.
bonelizzard;690698 wrote:no comments on my collective bargaining piece on my post?
imex99;690592 wrote:Getting raped by the state.... Allowing them to keep taking benefits and nothing in return! Once you lose it, your never getting in back!
fan_from_texas;690852 wrote:Getting raped?
mvred;690814 wrote:Private school teachers have their own retirement system set up and it is definitely not thru the State of Ohio.
ernest_t_bass;690872 wrote:What is it called? Is STRS through the state? I feel stoopid asking that.
My point wasn't that they don't want to incur debt; my point was the reason they make large starting salaries (which you made a point to compare teching salary with an attorney salary) is because they go to school and have massive amounts of student loan debt. If firms didn't offer large salaries, they wouldn't attract the best lawyers from the best schools (which are expensive). Teachers don't make as much because they are not in as high demand apparently. Simple economics.wkfan;689959 wrote:I understand the differences in terms of hours....again, it is all relative.
As far as school debt, that is a choice that a law student makes. If they don't want to incur the debt, then either choose another field or find another way to pay for it.
I could list all the teachers I know that HAVE had their Master's paid for by the district they work in, it is anecdotal evidence. Just because the people you know haven't had it paid for doesn't mean it still doesn't occur in many districts.wkfan;689959 wrote:BTW....very few districts offer tuition assistance. My wife, son, daughter-in-law, 3 nieces, sister-in-law and son's girlfriend all paid for their master's degree out of pocket. Not one taxpayer dollar went toward their tuition, supplies, etc. Very comparable.
LJ;690934 wrote:State Teachers Retirement System
mvred wrote:Private school teachers have their own retirement system set up and it is definitely not thru the State of Ohio.
ernest_t_bass wrote:What is it called? Is STRS through the state? I feel stoopid asking that.
LJ;690934 wrote:State Teachers Retirement System
I tend to agree with this. I don't believe there needs to be administration at each school system. I think regions could be established and administered from that perspective. Even a county wide system could be run more efficiently. City and local school systems are not necessary to be ultimately efficient.ernest_t_bass;691153 wrote:...
The problem with paying for education is that it is EXTREMELY top heavy!
Con_Alma;691152 wrote:Wasn't he asking what the retirement system the private schools have is called along with whether STRS is provided through the State?
LJ;691194 wrote:It's pretty obvious that stating that STRS stands for State Teachers Retirement System is answering the question of if STRS is through the state.
Wasn't he asking what the retirement system the private schools have is called...
Con_Alma;691199 wrote:Uhhhh, so obvious that it wasn't the point of my post. It's the first part of the sentence that has the emphasis on it.
Con_Alma;691207 wrote:Yes, we can see that. Why further clarify that based on my solicitation of whether you or anyone knows the name of the retirement plan for the private school teachers as has been claimed?
LJ;690715 wrote:Why are you so scared of having to negotiate things yourself? Is it because the union is the only thing you have known your whole professional life?
LJ;691209 wrote:Why do you keep directing it towards me when I have no idea?
