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grodt

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Feb 15, 2011 10:27pm

darbypitcher22;680042 wrote:^^^^

of course he will have pitched great. But I also think that because of him being bumped down he'll get an additional 3-4 wins in which he could give up 4 or 5 runs and still get a W because his offense pounds it out against someone's 3 4 or 5

Agree to disagree I guess. I don't see him being a #4 giving him 4 wins that would have been losses or NDs. I'd be curious to know what percentage of games a starter actually starts against the other teams pitcher in that same spot of the rotation.

jordo212000

Posts: 10,664

Feb 15, 2011 10:28pm

karen lotz;680057 wrote:You're joking right?

No... I am not? He played in 95 games last year, was beat up, and struggled at the plate. Heck, Chipper himself casually mentioned retirement during last season. He's a shell of his former self and is quite injury prone. My thinking is that if he gets another injury that sets him back for an extended period of time, he will simply walk away.

karen lotz

Posts: 22,284

Feb 15, 2011 10:33pm

He struggled out of the gate. After that comment he made about putting off retirement talk until after the season, he was on a 2 month streak where he was hitting about .320. And you did know that he tore his ACL, right? If he didn't walk away from an ACL tear I doubt any other injury is going to make him walk away this year as long as he is productive. Fredi has said he will be batting 3rd on opening day so someone seems to think he still has something in the tank.

darbypitcher22

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Feb 15, 2011 10:37pm

grodt;680058 wrote:Agree to disagree I guess. I don't see him being a #4 giving him 4 wins that would have been losses or NDs. I'd be curious to know what percentage of games a starter actually starts against the other teams pitcher in that same spot of the rotation.

Its probably not a great percentage, but still, being a #1 or #2 starter in most rotations is going to give you a decided advantage most times with the offense that they have going against most teams in the N.L's 3's and 4's

jordo212000

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Feb 15, 2011 10:40pm

He struggled out of the gate. After that comment he made about putting off retirement talk until after the season, he was on a 2 month streak where he was hitting about .320. And you did know that he tore his ACL, right? If he didn't walk away from an ACL tear I doubt any other injury is going to make him walk away this year as long as he is productive. Fredi has said he will be batting 3rd on opening day so someone seems to think he still has something in the tank.

He's another year older. I don't care what kind of 2 month streak he had. He still around .260 that tells you how bad he was for the other part of the year. If he is good, then great! I'm not a Chipper hater or anything. Just giving my opinion.

He's old and his skills are diminished. If Fredi thinks hitting Chipper 3rd is best for his team, cool. He needs to talk with the graveyard of Reds managers first though. He will need to ask them how it worked out when they placed a decaying Griffey in the 3 hole because of who he "was"

justincredible

Posts: 32,056

Feb 15, 2011 10:50pm

Tiger2003;680033 wrote:What's everyones prediction this year.

NL division winners and wild card team stay the same. Not sure on the AL yet.

Commander of Awesome;680054 wrote:Tell that to Justin and LJ.

Why should he tell us that? I don't get it. Must be the Marietta education.

karen lotz

Posts: 22,284

Feb 15, 2011 11:00pm

Breaking news announced regarding Pujols during the Ohio State basketball game. No link on espn.com yet. Anyone have an idea?

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Feb 15, 2011 11:02pm

What's the news on Pujols?

justincredible

Posts: 32,056

Feb 15, 2011 11:04pm

Pujols turned down 8 years, $200 million

jordo212000

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Feb 15, 2011 11:04pm

Breaking news announced regarding Pujols during the Ohio State basketball game. No link on espn.com yet. Anyone have an idea?

Cardinals made him an offer. I think it was 8 yrs 200 mill. I could be wrong about the terms though. Saw it on the bottom line earlier

karen lotz

Posts: 22,284

Feb 15, 2011 11:04pm

Eh, nothing too exciting. No new offer by the Cardinals.

karen lotz

Posts: 22,284

Feb 15, 2011 11:05pm

jordo212000;680197 wrote:Cardinals made him an offer. I think it was 8 yrs 200 mill. I could be wrong about the terms though. Saw it on the bottom line earlier

The breaking news is that that offer actually wasn't made.

justincredible

Posts: 32,056

Feb 15, 2011 11:05pm

Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million

karen lotz

Posts: 22,284

Feb 15, 2011 11:06pm

justincredible;680202 wrote:Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million

huh?

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Feb 15, 2011 11:06pm

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Tiger2003

Posts: 15,421

Feb 15, 2011 11:06pm

justincredible;680202 wrote:Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million

Bad Rumor.

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Feb 15, 2011 11:06pm

justincredible;680196 wrote:Pujols turned down 8 years, $200 million

I turned down that same offer from Justin, to be a mod on this site.

justincredible

Posts: 32,056

Feb 15, 2011 11:07pm

wut?

justincredible

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Feb 15, 2011 11:07pm

Tiger2003;680206 wrote:Bad Rumor.

Hope so. I don't want them to agree on a contract.

justincredible

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Feb 15, 2011 11:07pm

ernest_t_bass;680209 wrote:I turned down that same offer from Justin, to be a mod on this site.

I made an offer of 8 days, $2.

darbypitcher22

Posts: 8,000

Feb 15, 2011 11:09pm

According to Jayson Stark on ESPN no deal was offered today and there's nothing "imminent" before tomorrow's noon deadline. Also reports of the players union turning up the heat on Pujols to milk the Cards are also false.

At this point Stark believes Pujols goes Free Agent in November

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Feb 15, 2011 11:12pm

justincredible;680202 wrote:Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million

Where did you see that?

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Feb 16, 2011 7:49am

justincredible;680214 wrote:I made an offer of 8 days, $2.

Oh, that's it. I often see the word "days" as "years," and often mistake a period for 5 zeros.

jordo212000

Posts: 10,664

Feb 16, 2011 12:28pm

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Sonofanump

Feb 16, 2011 12:36pm

darbypitcher22;680042 wrote:^^^^

of course he will have pitched great. But I also think that because of him being bumped down he'll get an additional 3-4 wins in which he could give up 4 or 5 runs and still get a W because his offense pounds it out against someone's 3 4 or 5

I agree with this. His run support will be slightly higher giving him a few more Ws.