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Feb 16, 2011 7:59 AM
se-alum;680373 wrote:Good win for the Bucks. MSU played as well as they could have, and OSU was still able to pull it out by double digits. Buford is really starting to carry this team.

Considering Sullinger had by far his worst game, MSU shoots nearly 60% from the field and OSU wins by 10 pts...this was a very good game. Good balance for OSU and Buford did play very well. But Craft was the difference maker defensively. Especially late in the game.
Feb 16, 2011 7:59am
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Feb 16, 2011 8:03 AM
^^^agreed--the kid is an instant shot of adrenaline--he never stops!!!
Feb 16, 2011 8:03am
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Feb 16, 2011 8:10 AM
vball10set;680382 wrote:^^^agreed--the kid is an instant shot of adrenaline--he never stops!!!

Craft gives OSU that edge of toughness they need. Your right, he gives 100% effort, 100% of the time. Sad as it may be, that is unusual. He gets the crowd into as they appreciate his hustle. That ball he chased down and scored on late in the game was a great play. He really surprised me with his acceleration to get that ball. And although Lucas played a pretty good game, he had to work for everything he got. It didn't come easy. MSU executes the pick and roll as well as anybody and Lucas is pretty damn good with the ball in his hands. Craft did a pretty solid job overall on him.
Feb 16, 2011 8:10am
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Feb 16, 2011 8:18 AM
What I love most about Craft is his defense off the ball. The opposing PG has to work incredibly hard just to get the ball in his hands, which causes frustration and fatigue.
Feb 16, 2011 8:18am
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Feb 16, 2011 8:20 AM
september63 wrote: [INDENT]Good win for sure. Id just like to see more intensity for 40 minutes. We cant be getting out rebounded by 10 and allow over 50% shooting and still keep winning. [/INDENT]


Being outrebounded by MSU is no big deal. They box out as well as anyone in the country(when they are giving the effort), and they have some big bodies.
Feb 16, 2011 8:20am
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Feb 16, 2011 8:22 AM
se-alum;680396 wrote:Being outrebounded by MSU is no big deal. They box out as well as anyone in the country(when they are giving the effort), and they have some big bodies.

Yeah. I'm very happy about the turnover differential and it's okay getting outrebounded by Sparty.
Feb 16, 2011 8:22am
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Feb 16, 2011 8:23 AM
se-alum;680396 wrote:Being outrebounded by MSU is no big deal. They box out as well as anyone in the country(when they are giving the effort), and they have some big bodies.

Don't disagree. And considering Sullinger only had 2rbs..that final stat wasn't all too surprising. They really concentrated on keep him off the boards.

Another good thing to see, and something MSU lives off of...was that OSU only gave up 2 three pointers the entire game and MSU only got off 5. Considering what happened vs Wisky, that was good to see.
Feb 16, 2011 8:23am
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Feb 16, 2011 10:04 AM
Also, there weren't a whole lot of shots to be rebounded by OSU. Sparty shot 57% from the field, compared to OSU's 42%.
Feb 16, 2011 10:04am
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Feb 16, 2011 2:47 PM
Buckeyes took Michigan State's best shot, and beat them. Purdue is going to be a war.
Feb 16, 2011 2:47pm
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Feb 16, 2011 11:27 PM
Cleveland Buck;680325 wrote:At 17-13 they would be 9-9 in the conference.

I hope they get one of the play in games.
Feb 16, 2011 11:27pm
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Feb 16, 2011 11:33 PM
chicago510;680223 wrote:How in the world is MSU 14-11. I love Izzo, but this team is sloppy and gets away from what they do best, pound the paint.

Did Derrell Summers graduate or something? My goodness he was invisible.

His 2 buddies were sent off to Izzo's gulag.
Feb 16, 2011 11:33pm
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Feb 16, 2011 11:37 PM
Today I tried to find a Mock Draft that had Buford in the 1st round. None that I could find even had him in the 2nd round.
Feb 16, 2011 11:37pm
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Feb 16, 2011 11:50 PM
Tiger2003;680242 wrote:I believe Buford is gone. He is a 1st round pick.

Today I checked a lot of Mock Drafts looking for where they had Buford. He wasn't in the 1st round of any of them. AND he wasn't even in the 2nd round in any of them.
Feb 16, 2011 11:50pm
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Feb 16, 2011 11:54 PM
Big Gain;681544 wrote:Today I checked a lot of Mock Drafts looking for where they had Buford. He wasn't in the 1st round of any of them. AND he wasn't even in the 2nd round in any of them.

I think he has an NBA game, but I don't think he is quite there yet.
Feb 16, 2011 11:54pm
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Feb 17, 2011 12:28 AM
wildcats20;681546 wrote:I think he has an NBA game, but I don't think he is quite there yet.

His second half, the last few games particularly make me think otherwise. If he has a good B1G and NCAA he'll definitely rise on the board. I think he's already opened some eyes. Willing to bet those mocks haven't been updated.
Feb 17, 2011 12:28am
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Feb 17, 2011 12:29 AM
ytownfootball;681560 wrote:His second half, the last few games particularly make me think otherwise. If he has a good B1G and NCAA he'll definitely rise on the board. I think he's already opened some eyes. Willing to bet those mocks haven't been updated.

I do agree with this.

Still a long way to go this year.
Feb 17, 2011 12:29am
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Feb 17, 2011 12:31 AM
He needs to put on about 10-15 lbs of muscle to be really ready for the NBA, but his game is ready to go right now. He won't be back.
Feb 17, 2011 12:31am
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Feb 17, 2011 12:34 AM
Has he put on any weight since he's been in Columbus? I'm honestly too lazy right now to look it up lol
Feb 17, 2011 12:34am
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Feb 17, 2011 12:38 AM
He sure doesn't look like it, but yeah he could use a pound or ten.
Feb 17, 2011 12:38am
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Feb 17, 2011 9:56 AM
Cleveland Buck;681563 wrote:He needs to put on about 10-15 lbs of muscle to be really ready for the NBA, but his game is ready to go right now. He won't be back.

This. he needs to get stronger upper body. Could he go and maybe get drafted? Absolutely. But he would be taking a chance. By most mocks, he is a late 2nd round pick. Thats taking a chance. IF he stays, works on his game and gets in the weight room...he has the ability to get into the 1st round after his senior year. I don't recall all the NBA things money wise..but there is quite a bit of difference between 1st, 2nd and free agent in terms of money and contracts.
On top of that, we are possibly looking at a NBA lockout as well.
I think he has put on a little bit of weight/muscle...but not much.
Feb 17, 2011 9:56am
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Feb 17, 2011 10:40 AM
According to his uncle here in Toledo, unless Buford is assured of being taken in the first round, he has no intention of declaring for the NBA draft--he's intent on getting his degree, he really wants that brass ring, and he really enjoys being a student at OSU...just repeating what Uncle Tim told me.
Feb 17, 2011 10:40am
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Feb 18, 2011 3:19 AM
ytownfootball;681560 wrote:His second half, the last few games particularly make me think otherwise. If he has a good B1G and NCAA he'll definitely rise on the board. I think he's already opened some eyes. Willing to bet those mocks haven't been updated.

most were updated 2/14
Feb 18, 2011 3:19am
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Feb 18, 2011 4:14 AM
Big Gain;682639 wrote:most were updated 2/14

I found him at 22nd on the nbadraft.net '12 mock draft. 2nd senior taken. Draftexpress has him going 2nd round, 12th pick(34th overall) in the 2012 draft and 8th senior taken.

(I believe we shared which sites we go to most, forget what you had said though).
Feb 18, 2011 4:14am