O-Trap;674452 wrote:I've only seen it a handful of times, but what have they gotten wrong?

ytownfootball;674455 wrote:I don't ascribe to the theories, I'm just glad there are people who ask the questions. I don't trust the government any more than I trust the guy on the corner running a Three-card-Monte game. I think we all need to be suspicious and pay attention.

but this isn't a government issue

ytownfootball;674467 wrote:uhhh...it hit the Pentagon, it's all about the government.

Manhattan Buckeye;674479 wrote:So it wouldn't be an issue if it hit Georgetown U.? Was the flight that crashed in PA a government issue?

I'm trying to be patient, but it is unfathomable to me the logical leaps (or I should say the illogical leaps) that people make to turn this into something that all evidence shows it isn't. Again, if 9/11 was an inside job - we have the most intelligent, effective and completely airtight government in the history of mankind to pull off a hoax like this. We all know that isn't the case - so why all of a sudden are they competent to do this type of thing?

Manhattan Buckeye;674353 wrote:A conspiracy of what? What was the point? Do you think the shuttle launches were also conspiracies?

Scarlet_Buckeye;674654 wrote:Many believe it was a conspiracy and that the US was not ready [technologically] to land on the moon, but that the US faked landing on the moon so that the country would believe that we were superior than the Soviets since they were preparing to land on the moon.

Again, I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying it really isn't THAT far fetched to believe; especially considering all the "evidence" that "argues" we actually didn't.

Raw Dawgin' it;674402 wrote:I think if you believe myth busters is a credible source for debunking facts (they're constantly wrong for one) then you're also dumb enough to believe these conspiracy theories.

Manhattan Buckeye;674379 wrote:Might as well watch "Loose Change" in class...It is interesting as well, and full of bull-hockey.

Manhattan Buckeye;674479 wrote:So it wouldn't be an issue if it hit Georgetown U.? Was the flight that crashed in PA a government issue?

I'm trying to be patient, but it is unfathomable to me the logical leaps (or I should say the illogical leaps) that people make to turn this into something that all evidence shows it isn't. Again, if 9/11 was an inside job - we have the most intelligent, effective and completely airtight government in the history of mankind to pull off a hoax like this. We all know that isn't the case - so why all of a sudden are they competent to do this type of thing?

ytownfootball;674486 wrote:No need to be patient or impatient...why is it difficult to to realize the Bill Clinton defense...deny, deny, deny?

I am only advocating open mindedness, and there are some questions that remain unanswered in my mind.

ytownfootball;674439 wrote:They ran pilots through flight simulations that had them attempt to fly into the Pentagon, not one of them was successful in doing so, they all crashed prior to reaching their destination. Their explanation was a missile I believe. The reasoning behind it had to do with burying information (funding of black ops? missions- I really don't remember) was housed in the Pentagon offices located at the crash site. They had a lot of evidence to support their theory.

Not to mention that the Pentagon is a secure facility that has more than one camera angle that is being ponied up as evidence.

It might have been Decoded w/Brad Metzler?

ytownfootball;674393 wrote:I've seen just about all of the conspiracy stuff, some compelling, others not so much. Loose Change doesn't ring a bell though.

The only thing I've not seen sufficiently debunked for my taste was the jet hitting the Pentagon. Just one shot of the thing going into it (obviously a lot more shots available than one)...and it made a hole that was pretty inconsistent with a jet hitting a building, and a black box that, well, just didn't hold up.

believer;674838 wrote:what possible gain would we have enjoyed that would have justified the expenditure of billions of taxpayer dollars on such an elaborate ruse?

believer;674838 wrote:So all of the private companies, their execs, engineers, and employees and all of the thousands of Federal employees working for NASA were able to keep their mouths shut on the Big Lie all these years?

believer;674838 wrote:I remember being proud to be American the day Armstrong

dwccrew;674895 wrote:
I constantly ask this question when anyone I know makes these ridiculous claims. They have no rebutal. Their only rebuttal is, "open your mind" and "really think about it". Just give me a straight fucking answer as to why you think the government is all of a sudden competent enough to execute this ruse.

Manhattan Buckeye;674353 wrote:A conspiracy of what? What was the point? Do you think the shuttle launches were also conspiracies?

Scarlet_Buckeye;675277 wrote:Uhm... what part of the word "conspiracy" don't you understand?

queencitybuckeye;675288 wrote:Occam's razor tells us the more likely scenario.

believer;674838 wrote:While it is true that we were in a race to beat the Soviets to the moon, besides simple "bragging rights" what possible gain would we have enjoyed that would have justified the expenditure of billions of taxpayer dollars on such an elaborate ruse?

So all of the private companies, their execs, engineers, and employees and all of the thousands of Federal employees working for NASA were able to keep their mouths shut on the Big Lie all these years?

The launching of all the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo spacecraft from Cape Canaveral was just expensive fluff to screw with the Kremlin?

CBS, NBC, and ABC were willing to spend millions in television coverage with the help of Hollywood special effects just so the Feds could flip Ivan the bird?

When Apollo 13 had to abort its mission that was done simply to make the moon flights appear fallible and believable?

I watched every Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo flight with fascination as a kid. I remember being proud to be American the day Armstrong and Aldrin landed on the moon. I may have been a politically unaware and naive child at the time but there's no doubt in my mind we put men on the moon.