Why can illegal immigrants use OUR court system to sue Americans. Seems a bit ridiculous. If you can't legally be in our country you shouldn't have access to our legal systems. Give the guy a medal for actually defending our border, something our Federal government won't do.Federal appellate judges have refused to overturn the civil verdict against a Cochise County rancher found guilty of illegally imprisoning 16 border crossers.
NAW...The illegals will get favorable press, free food, free health care, and free tuition all at the rancher's expense.iclfan2;669448 wrote:Why can illegal immigrants use OUR court system to sue Americans. Seems a bit ridiculous. If you can't legally be in our country you shouldn't have access to our legal systems. Give the guy a medal for actually defending our border, something our Federal government won't do.
http://www.yumasun.com/news/barnett-67427-judges-plaintiffs.html
You're just being nice.fish82;670614 wrote:Dude shoulda just shot the lot of them and buried 'em in a field. End of problem.
fish82;670614 wrote:Dude shoulda just shot the lot of them and buried 'em in a field. End of problem.
It is illegal to imprison people in the United States. Not just US citizens. You cannot break the law just because the people you are abusing aren't citizens.iclfan2;669448 wrote:Why can illegal immigrants use OUR court system to sue Americans. Seems a bit ridiculous. If you can't legally be in our country you shouldn't have access to our legal systems. Give the guy a medal for actually defending our border, something our Federal government won't do.
http://www.yumasun.com/news/barnett-67427-judges-plaintiffs.html
First this word imprison. Did he lock them up for an extended period of time? Or did he detain them until the authorities arrived and determined what to do with them? One is imprisonment. The other is not.I Wear Pants;670880 wrote:I saw a kid walk across my yard today, technically I could call that trespassing. Therefore I have the right to imprison him right? Nope.
That they weren't US citizens is irrelevant to the fact the Rancher broke the law by imprisoning people.
Precicely. He held them at gunpoint until the authorities arrived. These yahoos are acting like he kept them locked in his fucking basement for a month or something.Writerbuckeye;670670 wrote:I'd argue he can make a citizen's arrest and detain them until authorities arrive -- and it's not imprisoning them.
In any event, part of the reason we have such a horrible problem with illegals, benefits and debt is because of judges who basically give away the store.
fish82;670966 wrote:Precicely. He held them at gunpoint until the authorities arrived. These yahoos are acting like he kept them locked in his fucking basement for a month or something.
He detained them on the spot where he found them. Called his wife who contacted border control and they took them into custody. Calling that imprisonment is a bastardization of the English language.I Wear Pants;671002 wrote:I never saw where it said how long he had them detained.
They're criminals, and trespassing on his property. He's perfectly within his rights to detain them until the authorities arrive.Ty Webb;670621 wrote:Yes...that would have been a good idea..then he would have gone to prison. Smart idea fish
The reason he was sued if because he illegally imprisoned 16 human beings. While them crossing the border is wrong,he can't imprison them just because he wants to
Sounds like what he did was pretty reasonable to me. This country has some F'd up priorities.Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998....Mr. Barnett told The Washington Times in a 2002 interview that he began rounding up illegal immigrants after they started to vandalize his property, northeast of Douglas along Arizona Highway 80. He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home. “This is my land. I´m the victim here,” Mr. Barnett said. “When someone´s home and loved ones are in jeopardy and the government seemingly can´t do anything about it, I feel justified in taking matters into my own hands. And I always watch my back.”