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beatobama

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Dec 18, 2011 7:10 PM
Are you double jointed??
Mr. Russell;1019135 wrote:I think I deserve some Rep power for breaking this story on OC first. Come on everyone.
Dec 18, 2011 7:10pm
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1486wd

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Dec 18, 2011 7:43 PM
i really didn't mean to insinuate they did - it just looks fishy. I still don't know why you would sign it if you're getting let go - just dont talk.
Mr. Russell;1019121 wrote:They have nothing on Schrock. He signed it and regretted signing it. He wasn't given time to prepare for the meeting, just called that day and told to come in. Unlike the board that doesn't have to answer to anybody unless they prepare for it in advance.
Dec 18, 2011 7:43pm
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Red Rum

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Dec 18, 2011 8:37 PM
I was eyeballing the other thread and I think the post from Heidi Hartzler is VERY interesting. I have no idea if she's who she says, but if she is, her account is very telling.

If Besancon was behind the Schrock ouster, what kind of effect does that have on his chances of getting the job?

If it turns out Besancon was behind it, would the Smithie faithful still want him?

If not and even worse (for Husky fans), could Thut be offered the job?

and finally, would Thut take it?




Note: Smithie & Husky fans, the above is all speculation, a common internet practice.

Note 2: Otrap, this post is multiquote gold, take advantage.
Dec 18, 2011 8:37pm
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Dec 18, 2011 9:03 PM
Red Rum;1019414 wrote:I was eyeballing the other thread and I think the post from Heidi Hartzler is VERY interesting. I have no idea if she's who she says, but if she is, her account is very telling.

If Besancon was behind the Schrock ouster, what kind of effect does that have on his chances of getting the job?

If it turns out Besancon was behind it, would the Smithie faithful still want him?

If not and even worse (for Husky fans), could Thut be offered the job?

and finally, would Thut take it?




Note: Smithie & Husky fans, the above is all speculation, a common internet practice.

Note 2: Otrap, this post is multiquote gold, take advantage.
I think it it does hurt his chances at getting the job and could hurt the great football program that Schrock has built.

Thut would be a very interesting choice.....although from the outside it looks as though he likes it at Northwestern and wouldn't leave.

I said on the other thread, Smithville would not be doing the football program any justice if they kept it with inside candidates or locals interested....I think you have to open a state-wide search and find the best man for the job.
Dec 18, 2011 9:03pm
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Dec 18, 2011 9:45 PM
OrrQB...

How many "good candidates" will be interested in a D5 job that comes with a school board & super that just tossed out a 250 win legend like he was a piece of trash?

The way this went down really points to an inside job.

It will also make it harder to hire a top notch outsider.
Dec 18, 2011 9:45pm
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oldsmithie

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Dec 19, 2011 4:50 AM
I agree with Bloody! The way they treated a legend, would be a red flag to outside candidates!
Dec 19, 2011 4:50am
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iced earth

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Dec 19, 2011 7:33 AM
Agreed...this wouldn't have went down this way without them already knowing who they are getting next. And... I also agree, no esthablished coach from outside the system wants any part of this.
Dec 19, 2011 7:33am
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Dec 19, 2011 11:27 AM
An outside coach can't lose in this scenario. There is talent coming back and many parents and players understand the situation that the new coach is being put into.
Dec 19, 2011 11:27am
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mdk939

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Dec 19, 2011 11:36 AM
Hey Red Rum we don't want Thut even if he wants to come. Brent is really the guy most true fans wanted to take over when Schrock decided to retire but if the rumors are true I say we send him packing on the same truck with the administration.

Lets pack the BOE meeting tonight and demand answers.
Dec 19, 2011 11:36am
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Dec 19, 2011 1:03 PM
The board will not discuss the Schrock issue tonight and will move to executive session and close the doors. The admin already stated that she is not going to discuss it until after the first of the year.

My father is a 1961 Smithville grad and played with Schrock. I told him of the "forced resignation" and he was very upset that the administration handled it this way.

I sure hope that the Smithville fans let their voices be heard loud and clear, but unfortunately it will go on deaf ears because the administration decision is final!
Dec 19, 2011 1:03pm
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Dec 19, 2011 1:37 PM
It's funny that she said she won't discuss it and yet she's already broken her confidentiality agreement. What a joke! Who breaks their own agreement!?
Dec 19, 2011 1:37pm
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Dec 19, 2011 3:20 PM
Old Rider;1020083 wrote:... but unfortunately it will go on deaf ears because the administration decision is final!
Fortunately, the voters' decision will be as well once the time comes.
Dec 19, 2011 3:20pm
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beatobama

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Dec 19, 2011 3:58 PM
When is the next election for board members?
O-Trap;1020233 wrote:Fortunately, the voters' decision will be as well once the time comes.
Dec 19, 2011 3:58pm
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Dec 19, 2011 4:11 PM
Bloody Toothbrush;1019505 wrote:OrrQB...

How many "good candidates" will be interested in a D5 job that comes with a school board & super that just tossed out a 250 win legend like he was a piece of trash?

The way this went down really points to an inside job.

It will also make it harder to hire a top notch outsider.
oldsmithie;1019715 wrote:I agree with Bloody! The way they treated a legend, would be a red flag to outside candidates!
iced earth;1019731 wrote:Agreed...this wouldn't have went down this way without them already knowing who they are getting next. And... I also agree, no esthablished coach from outside the system wants any part of this.
Great points guys, and you are absolutely correct....but all this BS aside, it comes down to the Smithville Football Program which is one of the best small school football programs in Ohio.....thanks to Schrock. I just believe outside interest is there and they wouldn't be doing the program any justice not looking at all possibilities.
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1020118 wrote:It's funny that she said she won't discuss it and yet she's already broken her confidentiality agreement. What a joke! Who breaks their own agreement!?
Exactly....we all know Schrock's resume, What are her credentials? :rolleyes:
Dec 19, 2011 4:11pm
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Dec 19, 2011 4:18 PM
beatobama;1020265 wrote:When is the next election for board members?
I unfortunately don't live there anymore, so I'm not sure. However, I have heard no person defending the board's actions, and many of those people have been Smithville voters.
Dec 19, 2011 4:18pm
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Longsnapper

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Dec 19, 2011 4:31 PM
Hope to see as many people at tonight's board meeting. I should be easy to spot.....I'll be the pissed off one.
Dec 19, 2011 4:31pm
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Dec 19, 2011 4:58 PM
Longsnapper;1020313 wrote:Hope to see as many people at tonight's board meeting. I should be easy to spot.....I'll be the pissed off one.
I'll be there. Blue button down shirt and khakis.
Dec 19, 2011 4:58pm
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mdk939

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Dec 19, 2011 5:01 PM
Longsnapper;1020313 wrote:Hope to see as many people at tonight's board meeting. I should be easy to spot.....I'll be the pissed off one.
Good, that's usually my job, but I'm sure you'll do fine. I'm stuck at work so fill us in after the meeting of the MORONS.
Dec 19, 2011 5:01pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:02 PM
JJ68;1020344 wrote:I'll be there. Blue button down shirt and khakis.
Well I would show up but feel like I would be way underdressed now.


I don't live in the Smithville District, so I really don't have an official say in all of this. However, the BOE knows my opinion of recent events, I assure you.

Good luck to those in attendance....be vocal, be loud.
Dec 19, 2011 5:02pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:07 PM
I hope a certain local businessman makes good on his threat to pull funding to the school if anything is done to Coach Schrock.
Dec 19, 2011 5:07pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:15 PM
THE4RINGZ;1020347 wrote:Well I would show up but feel like I would be way underdressed now.


I don't live in the Smithville District, so I really don't have an official say in all of this. However, the BOE knows my opinion of recent events, I assure you.

Good luck to those in attendance....be vocal, be loud.
I don't live in the district either but they don't need to know that lol. Just played for Coach Schrock 9 seasons ago and think it's b.s.

I have to do an internship next fall to graduate in December and I'd talked to the coaches about it back in August. I had this conversation with them at Leroys so I don't remember how it went but I'm pretty sure they were open to allowing me to do it.

I sent a nasty email to Judy Robinson on Saturday so I highly doubt she'd approve of me doing coaching there lol.
Dec 19, 2011 5:15pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:32 PM
JJ, I realize you played under Coach Schrock and probably have strong opinions about this situation as many others do, and rightfully so, but I don't know that sending nasty emails would help the situation. What ever happened to letting cooler heads prevail? State the facts, the support, and the loyalty, but lashing out may only solidify the decision in their eyes (however cloudy their eyes may be)
Dec 19, 2011 5:32pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:43 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1020382 wrote:JJ, I realize you played under Coach Schrock and probably have strong opinions about this situation as many others do, and rightfully so, but I don't know that sending nasty emails would help the situation. What ever happened to letting cooler heads prevail? State the facts, the support, and the loyalty, but lashing out may only solidify the decision in their eyes (however cloudy their eyes may be)
Nasty emails aren't going to help or hurt the situation. Coach Schrock is gone regardless of what happens. I think the administration has made that clear. He signed a resignation and gag order. I know emails won't do anything in regards to that.

But I will let the administration know I'm not happy with what they did and that I'm done giving them any money. There's something fishy go on here and they don't want people to know the truth. It wasn't Schrock who created the gag order it was the administration. You can't do these kind of things and expect people to be ok with it.
Dec 19, 2011 5:43pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:45 PM
JJ, I really would like to see if you can get some answers in relation to what I posted on the 3rd page of the other thread. Regarding the code of ethics and the 4 letters that I highlighted.
Dec 19, 2011 5:45pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM
Mr. Russell;1020394 wrote:JJ, I really would like to see if you can get some answers in relation to what I posted on the 3rd page of the other thread. Regarding the code of ethics and the 4 letters that I highlighted.
I just took a look at that. Very interesting. I will make sure to ask if given a chance.
Dec 19, 2011 5:52pm