dwccrew;628590 wrote:Pryor is still trying to learn the QB position and is behind the curve IMO.

2700 yards passing and 27 td's with a mediocre WR corps. I would say he is fine for what we need. It was just obvious he lacked explosiveness downfield. Dane was good, but he wasn't a #1 and our #1 is soft and gave up on many plays. IMO if Pryor had Smith's 2006 WR corps of Ginn Gonzo Robo Hartline, he would have blown Smith's 2006 stats out of the water (even though he had about 500 yards more total O and a few more TDs to begin with)

O-Line pass blocking consistency and WR depth really hurt this offense. I give the overall offense an A- only because of overall production
QB- B+
RB- B
WR- B-
O-line- C+

At the end of the day it was a very successful season performance wise. As someone earlier stated winning a BCS game and being co-Big10 champs is excellent. That alone motivates me to grade the season as an A-. There are only two higher possible acheivements.

1. Going undefeated in the regular season which would have put them in the NC game.

2. Winning the National Championship.

LJ;629067 wrote:O-Line pass blocking consistency and WR depth really hurt this offense. I give the overall offense an A- only because of overall production
QB- B+
RB- B
WR- B-
O-line- C+

I'm not really disagreeing with your assessment, but isn't it funny that all those B's add up to an A overall? I think that's why some people are giving this season a low grade and some people want to be happy. Overall we had a pretty good year, but we were far from perfect.

^^^LOL--I wish I had LJ as my teacher in high school

vball10set;629265 wrote:^^^LOL--I wish I had LJ as my teacher in high school

I said it was an A- based solely on production. As a unit they performed. Individual areas were majorly lacking though, but not in a sense that they were holding back production, just that they weren't helping out as much as we would expect them to

I'm not sure how you can really be disappointed with a season like this.

Overall, I'd say the performance for the Buckeyes this year resulted in a solid A.

Anytime you win your conference, finish with 1 loss, and win a BCS bowl it's a great season.

Offensively I'd give them an A as well. This was the most prolific offense OSU has seen under Tress. Even putting up 73 in a game.

Defensively, I'll go A-. I wasn't real pleased with the defense during the first half of the season, but it seems like things changed after that Wisconsin loss. It was never more evident than in the Arkansas game. It seems like Heacock began to bring much more pressure than before and it resulted in some great defensive performances.

I mean, we could have a team who completely falls off the BCS picture (ala Texas, Florida, etc..), instead we have a program who has the MOST BCS wins and a 66% win percentage in BCS games.

krambman;628962 wrote:Sounds like this team could go undefeated and win the national title and you'd only give them a B+.

I can't understand how you could grade the offense at a B when they were one of the most potent in OSU history.

No, I'm just a tough grader haha.

They went 12-1 and a share of the Big Ten title, but honestly, Arkansas is the best team they beat all year, after that it is what Miami? Illi? I think everyone but Wisconsin on OSU's schedule had at least 3 losses.

They still had a ton of problems, yes they did score a lot of points, but the schedule this year was one of OSU's weakest in a long time in my view. That helped push up the stats.
A great year, 12-1, top 5, awesome, but the O was still bad at times and the special teams were the worst in Tressel's tenure.

ptown_trojans_1;629419 wrote:No, I'm just a tough grader haha.

They went 12-1 and a share of the Big Ten title, but honestly, Arkansas is the best team they beat all year, after that it is what Miami? Illi? I think everyone but Wisconsin on OSU's schedule had at least 3 losses.

They still had a ton of problems, yes they did score a lot of points, but the schedule this year was one of OSU's weakest in a long time in my view. That helped push up the stats.
A great year, 12-1, top 5, awesome, but the O was still bad at times and the special teams were the worst in Tressel's tenure.

No question the special teams were awful, but really only on the kickoff/punt end of things. Return game was fine. And it's not like our offense ran up those stats by keeping the starters in until there's two minutes left in the game like Bob Stoops does. These guys maybe only played five four-quarter games all year. Most of those numbers came in just three quarters on the field. Heck, if you look at the PSU and Arkansas games all of their offensive stats came in just one half!

LJ;629067 wrote:2700 yards passing and 27 td's with a mediocre WR corps. I would say he is fine for what we need. It was just obvious he lacked explosiveness downfield. Dane was good, but he wasn't a #1 and our #1 is soft and gave up on many plays. IMO if Pryor had Smith's 2006 WR corps of Ginn Gonzo Robo Hartline, he would have blown Smith's 2006 stats out of the water (even though he had about 500 yards more total O and a few more TDs to begin with)

O-Line pass blocking consistency and WR depth really hurt this offense. I give the overall offense an A- only because of overall production
QB- B+
RB- B
WR- B-

Yeah, but Smith played a tougher schedule against better quality opponents. I am not disagreeing with you and saying Pryor didn't perform well, but you can't actually believe he isn't behind the curve in knowing the position. He still has problems reading defenses. Reading progressions and checking down he has gotten better. And I even saw improvement in when to throw it away, but he still doesn't look like a 3rd year starter at a premier school.

dwccrew;629705 wrote:Yeah, but Smith played a tougher schedule against better quality opponents. I am not disagreeing with you and saying Pryor didn't perform well, but you can't actually believe he isn't behind the curve in knowing the position. He still has problems reading defenses. Reading progressions and checking down he has gotten better. And I even saw improvement in when to throw it away, but he still doesn't look like a 3rd year starter at a premier school.

I think he can do all those things just fine. If Shugarts wasn't getting his ass blown off the edge all season you would have seen Pryor having a better chance to make reads in games against good teams rather than throwing up bad balls just trying to make plays. He did it as a result in the Sugar Bowl because of Shugarts, he did it at Wisconsin because of Shugarts. He also needs to calm down and stop trying to force plays. You think that defenses really changed THAT much in terms of coverages minus an extra man towards the end of a half? No, it was always Pryor trying to force things. His biggest problem isn't reading a defense, his biggest problem is letting the play develop like it should or taking what the defense gives him. He will do well for 20 attempts then all of a sudden it's like he says "fuck it, I'm making this shit happen NOW"

Also, I am not sure anyone on the 2006 schedule was better than the 2010 schedule minus Florida. Texas= Miami, Wisconsin = Michigan, Iowa was Iowa, Illinois was Illinois, pretty damn comparable. Smith had a stable of NFL players with him, Gonzo, Ginn, Hartline, Wells, Robiskie and a 2nd rounder in Pittman... Pryor has..... Posey?

LJ;629719 wrote:I think he can do all those things just fine. If Shugarts wasn't getting his ass blown off the edge all season you would have seen Pryor having a better chance to make reads in games against good teams rather than throwing up bad balls just trying to make plays. He did it as a result in the Sugar Bowl because of Shugarts, he did it at Wisconsin because of Shugarts. He also needs to calm down and stop trying to force plays. You think that defenses really changed THAT much in terms of coverages minus an extra man towards the end of a half? No, it was always Pryor trying to force things. His biggest problem isn't reading a defense, his biggest problem is letting the play develop like it should or taking what the defense gives him. He will do well for 20 attempts then all of a sudden it's like he says "fuck it, I'm making this shit happen NOW"

Also, I am not sure anyone on the 2006 schedule was better than the 2010 schedule minus Florida. Texas= Miami, Wisconsin = Michigan, Iowa was Iowa, Illinois was Illinois, pretty damn comparable. Smith had a stable of NFL players with him, Gonzo, Ginn, Hartline, Wells, Robiskie and a 2nd rounder in Pittman... Pryor has..... Posey?

We don't know how many NFL players Pryor is going to have. Second, I wouldn't compare Texas to Miami. Texas finished ranked 13th that season. I'd say Wisky is comparable to Michigan, but Wisky kicked Ohio State's ass this year. In 2006 OSU beat Michigan. I think Iowa was equal, and both games were at Iowa but in 2006 it wasn't a close game like this season. Illinois was probably a bit better this season IMO and OSU played them a bit better this season than in 2006.

All in all, I think the 2006 team was better (which it seems you agree) and again, I am not saying Pryor isn't good or that he didn't do well, I just feel he should be able to make better decisions in games and not throwing bad balls and trying to make shit happen, as you stated. I agree with that.

BCS win, Big 10 title, a hiccup at Wisky is all

That 'hiccup' costs the full "A"...I'm going to give them an A-. The ambush at Wisky notwithstanding, the team played pretty well thru a mediocre strength schedule. I don't understand the hatred for Pryor, who only had one bad game, and accounted for a lot of the offense both with his arm and his legs. Without him, the rushing game looks pretty average for a top 5 team. The defense was nails...except when it needed to stop Wisconsin in the 4th quarter. that just seems to be the season in a nutshell (pun intended)...everybody just was sub par in Madison.

A- Big Ten co champs and an SEC bowl win . If we would have blown out Arkansas like we could have after half instead of letting them back in it would be an A ... Great job Buckeyes Great job cant complain . naturally we want a national title ... next year we have a legit shot

Thinthickbigred;631862 wrote:A- Big Ten co champs and an SEC bowl win . If we would have blown out Arkansas like we could have after half instead of letting them back in it would be an A ... Great job Buckeyes Great job cant complain . naturally we want a national title ... next year we have a legit shot

Are you dense? Our top three returning offensive weapons will be out the first five games, and the first game they come back is at Nebraska. The Buckeyes will be lucky to make it through those first six games unscathed. They certainly have a shot next year, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a legit shot.