SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 16, 2011 1:42pm
BR1986FB;680789 wrote:I keep seeing new mocks with Peterson (LSU) falling to the Browns at #6. Have even seen a few where the Browns passed on him and Peterson was taken at #7. Can't say I'd have an issue with Dixon & Minnifield 2.0 (Haden & Peterson) back there.
I'm a big believer that you don't need great corners to have a good defense, because if the front 7 are great, your corners are going to look great. Look at Pittsburgh, they haven't really had a lockdown corner, but they always seem to get good production out of their secondary.
That's not to say I wouldn't be happy with Peterson, but I feel if we are going to go defense (i'm still saying take a WR first round) go D-line.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Feb 16, 2011 1:48pm
^^^
That is true to an extent, but I'm sure the Steelers are wishing they had some better corners after their showing against the Packers in the Super Bowl.....
That is true to an extent, but I'm sure the Steelers are wishing they had some better corners after their showing against the Packers in the Super Bowl.....
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 16, 2011 1:50pm
If Peterson is the BPA at the Browns pick I wouldn't hesitate to grab him. D-Line & WR is a GLARING need but if Peterson is the best available why not fix the secondary for the next 7-10 years?
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 16, 2011 1:59pm
BR1986FB;680849 wrote:If Peterson is the BPA at the Browns pick I wouldn't hesitate to grab him. D-Line & WR is a GLARING need but if Peterson is the best available why not fix the secondary for the next 7-10 years?
Not sure I agree with that. Just the learning curve alone might prevent me from selecting a corner given the circumstances ie D line. There isn't nearly the turnaround time in getting a Dlineman up to speed. I think we'd benefit more quickly going D line imo.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Feb 16, 2011 2:22pm
Sam Sheilds sure didn't have a learning curve this year for Green Bay and he was a WR in college. Haden would have been farther ahead if he got more PT early in the season, he did pretty good once he got more. I think they can make a big impact at secondary right away. I am all for taking the BPA, I hope it is a defensive player and not AJ Green, I do not want.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 16, 2011 2:27pm
I'm not saying it's not possible, just less likely. I always like to take the BPA but I may be leaning toward the BP d lineman as opposed to BP at corner.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 16, 2011 2:30pm
This team just needs a serious injection of talent EVERYWHERE.
thedynasty1998
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Feb 16, 2011 2:32pm
Very good points. In my opinion an average WR will beat a great CB if given time. The Browns desperately needs a pass rusher, so I think that's the most logical choice on the defensive side of the ball. However, the Browns could go in a number of directions and I think could be a solid pick.SportsAndLady;680836 wrote:I'm a big believer that you don't need great corners to have a good defense, because if the front 7 are great, your corners are going to look great. Look at Pittsburgh, they haven't really had a lockdown corner, but they always seem to get good production out of their secondary.
That's not to say I wouldn't be happy with Peterson, but I feel if we are going to go defense (i'm still saying take a WR first round) go D-line.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 16, 2011 2:45pm
thedynasty1998;680921 wrote:Very good points. In my opinion an average WR will beat a great CB if given time. The Browns desperately needs a pass rusher, so I think that's the most logical choice on the defensive side of the ball. However, the Browns could go in a number of directions and I think could be a solid pick.
I agree, there will likely not be a disappointment in any direction. Botch Davis isn't in charge...
se-alum
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Feb 16, 2011 3:19pm
Not gonna lie, it's pretty intriguing to have a secondary anchored by Haden, Peterson, and Ward. A good secondary can also free up the front 7 to do more blitzing.
What's the word on D'Qwell Jackson?
What's the word on D'Qwell Jackson?
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Feb 16, 2011 3:22pm
A good secondary can also create a thing called a "coverage sack"...which is just as good as a regular sack.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 16, 2011 3:28pm
se-alum;681000 wrote:
What's the word on D'Qwell Jackson?
Haven't heard much on his recovery. I know he wouldn't be at the top of my list of "priorities" to re-sign.
OQB
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Feb 16, 2011 3:30pm
^Even with the uncertainty of free agency and not having many LB's on the roster?
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BR1986FB
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Feb 16, 2011 3:34pm
Dude is a China Doll and he's kinda undersized. Sure, he makes a boatload of tackles but he has the "Andra Davis Syndrome" (tackles 5 yards downfield, never an impact play in the backfield). He's coming off of back-to-back pec injuries. Plus, I think he's kinda pissed off at the organization for not signing him to a fat contract this past offseason.
OQB
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Feb 16, 2011 3:44pm
lol fair enough, just wanted to hear your reasoning behind it.....I'm all for moving on while getting younger and more talented.
Commander of Awesome
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Feb 16, 2011 6:02pm
Watch it on the Andra Davis bashing. He's my favorite player of all time.
like_that
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Feb 16, 2011 6:23pm
Kiper has the Browns taking JJ Wats in the first round now.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 16, 2011 6:50pm
I have been a huge fan of drafting AJ Green, but I am leaning towards the defense pick. We can get a WR in the later rounds I feel like.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2011 6:52pm
DeyDurkie5;681214 wrote:I have been a huge fan of drafting AJ Green, but I am leaning towards the defense pick. We can get a WR in the later rounds I feel like.
I agree. It seems 2/3 of the teams are going defense in the first round. There will be plenty of offensive talent in the 2nd and 3rd round.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Feb 16, 2011 7:26pm
It wouldn't surprise me if Green falls out of the top 10 or even 15.
I would take Watt....but not with the sixth pick, I would trade down to maybe 12-15 and grab him there.
I would take Watt....but not with the sixth pick, I would trade down to maybe 12-15 and grab him there.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 16, 2011 7:30pm
like_that;681201 wrote:Kiper has the Browns taking JJ Wats in the first round now.
Was just about to post this. Kiper's "Count Chocula" hair has apparently sucked his brain out.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Feb 16, 2011 7:33pm
Kiper and McShay have a great job.....watch football all day, talk to NFL GM's, then debate whether who is going to get drafted.
Must be nice, Weather men/women and Draft gurus are about the only jobs where you can be completely wrong and still have a job, lol where do I sign up?
Must be nice, Weather men/women and Draft gurus are about the only jobs where you can be completely wrong and still have a job, lol where do I sign up?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2011 7:54pm
OQB;681240 wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if Green falls out of the top 10 or even 15.
I would take Watt....but not with the sixth pick, I would trade down to maybe 12-15 and grab him there.
I agree. They should look into this.
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Feb 16, 2011 8:07pm
I'd rather take the BPA at 6. There will be plenty of talent available there. Unless they get blown away by another team I hope we stay at 6.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Feb 16, 2011 8:26pm
This draft is full of quality D-lineman....I think we are in good hands with the front office we have.