Cleveland Browns 2011 Super Awesome In-Season Thread

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Dec 29, 2011 3:42pm
By using the first 3 picks on offense (QB, WR, RT),
I would be 100% fine with that
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Dec 29, 2011 3:43pm
If it was just about money then St Louis would sign him.
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Dec 29, 2011 3:45pm
I'm definitely interested to see what this offseason brings. Are we going to spend a bunch in free agency? Who do we target in FA compared to the draft? Do we go with a qb in the draft or do we stick with what we have and build around that?
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BR1986FB
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Dec 29, 2011 4:04pm
ABJ_Browns Nate Ulrich









# Browns coach Pat
Shurmur on Baylor QB Robert Griffin III: "I've watched him. Tremendous talent,
good player." # NFL


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# Browns coach Shurmur
said RG3 is a tremendous talent. "Good players at all positions fit any offense"
when asked if he fits west coast


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# Browns coach Pat
Shurmur on Baylor QB Robert Griffin III in Aloma Bowl tonight: "I'll find a way
to watch that game, yeah."
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Dec 29, 2011 4:06pm
BR1986FB;1030215 wrote:Aaaaaaaaarghh.....WHY do people think that drafting a QB with the first 1st rounder (let's say RG3) and upgrading the playmakers is "mutually exclusive"...like it can't be done in the same year? By using the first 3 picks on offense (QB, WR, RT), re-signing Hillis and signing a free agent WR (Garcon, D-Jax?) this offense looks light years different.

QB- RG3, Wallace
RB- Hillis, B-Jax, Hardesty (or later draft pick)
WR- Garcon, Wright (second 1st rounder), Little, MoMass, Norwood
TE- Moore, Cameron, Watson
LT- Thomas
LG- Steinbach (if healthy)
C- Mack
RG- Pinkston or Free Agent
RT- 2nd rounder (Levi Adcock-Oklahoma St or Mike Adams-OSU?)

That's ONLY using ONE free agent. They could sign another FA guard (Nicks) to play next to the rook at RT. It's NOT that difficult and it could be done in ONE offseason.
RGIII is starting to grow on me, I know I've said I didn't think he would be a good qb in the NFL....but I have been thinking a lot lately and he could be a great addition and an exciting playmaker to watch on offense.
BR1986FB;1030138 wrote:I'd be much higher on Mercilus at 1b.

Frankly, I'd rather them use the pick on something else and grab Cliff Avril in FA. I have a sneaky feeling that Mario Williams may hit FA too with all of the talent that Houston has on their D-Line and at OLB. Pipe dream but imagine Mario Williams bookended with Sheard?
If the Texans let him go, The Browns better be ALL OVER this and throw him a record contract to get him in a Browns uniform. You have to spend money to win games.
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Dec 29, 2011 4:42pm
WalterFootball's newest mock has the Browns getting RGIII and Alshon Jeffery (sliding to #22) with the 2 first rounders, with Mike Adams in the 2nd.
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Dec 29, 2011 4:43pm
Mulva;1030279 wrote:WalterFootball's newest mock has the Browns getting RGIII and Alshon Jeffery (sliding to #22) with the 2 first rounders, with Mike Adams in the 2nd.
I wouldn't mind that at all.
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Dec 29, 2011 4:51pm
don't want jeffreys
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BR1986FB
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Dec 29, 2011 5:02pm
Mulva;1030279 wrote:WalterFootball's newest mock has the Browns getting RGIII and Alshon Jeffery (sliding to #22) with the 2 first rounders, with Mike Adams in the 2nd.

Projected 4.55 forty on Jeffery. That's similar to what they already have in Little & MoMass. Better get that burner somewhere. Like the RG3/Adams picks though.
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Dec 29, 2011 5:04pm
Why not Deydurkie? (honest question)


edit: BR may have just answered it...
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Dec 29, 2011 5:06pm
ohiobucks1;1030300 wrote:Why not Deydurkie? (honest question)


edit: BR may have just answered it...
average speed, disappears in games, and we need receivers that are fast as shit. essentially BR answered that for me.
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Dec 29, 2011 5:08pm
Get Hilton in the later rounds.....kid out of FIU has the speed and playmaking ability we need.
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BR1986FB
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Dec 29, 2011 5:13pm
DeyDurkie5;1030303 wrote:average speed, disappears in games, and we need receivers that are fast as shit. essentially BR answered that for me.
Yeah, look at the rest of the division. Every team has one guy (Bengals-Caldwell, Steelers-Wallace/Brown, Rats-Torrey Smith) with blazing speed who can stretch the field. Every one of those guys is a 4.4 with some being in the 4.3's. The Browns don't have anything close to that speed currently seeing the field at WR.
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Dec 29, 2011 5:18pm
BR1986FB;1030308 wrote:Yeah, look at the rest of the division. Every team has one guy (Bengals-Caldwell, Steelers-Wallace/Brown, Rats-Torrey Smith) with blazing speed who can stretch the field. Every one of those guys is a 4.4 with some being in the 4.3's. The Browns don't have anything close to that speed currently seeing the field at WR.
Wright: Baylor
Hilton: FIU
Broyles: Oklahoma

All 4.4 guys that could stretch the field and mid round picks.
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BR1986FB
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Dec 29, 2011 5:21pm
OQB;1030310 wrote:Wright: Baylor
Hilton: FIU
Broyles: Oklahoma

All 4.4 guys that could stretch the field and mid round picks.
I like Broyles. He could be a value pick and fall due to that ACL. Heckert has to do his job and find thse types. Pittsburgh found Wallace/Brown in later rounds.
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Dec 29, 2011 5:26pm
I would be more than happy to draft QB/WR/OT with the first 3 picks. But, I don't want to trade multiple future picks to do it.
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Dec 29, 2011 5:26pm
im good friends with eric page. he isn't coming out. hes very happy with the matt campbell hire.
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shook_17
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Dec 29, 2011 5:28pm
and mario williams isn't coming to cleveland. its a pipe dream.
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Dec 29, 2011 6:27pm
any way we can get ahead of minnesota if they beat the bears and the browns lose to pitt? a redskins trade-up with the vikings for rg3 worries me
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BR1986FB
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Dec 29, 2011 6:31pm
dazedconfused;1030353 wrote:any way we can get ahead of minnesota if they beat the bears and the browns lose to pitt? a redskins trade-up with the vikings for rg3 worries me

Yes, if Minnesota wins the Browns leapfrog them with a loss. The next game to think about is Indy/Jax. If Indy wins & Minny wins it's 1) Rams 2)Indy 3)Jax 4) Browns where if Jax wins & Minny wins it's 1)Indy 2) Rams 3) Browns.

In the first scenario, JAX worries me. Are they set on Gabbert? In the second, I could see the Redskins selling their farm to get to #2 for RG3.
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zach24oz
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Dec 29, 2011 6:32pm
Don't you think the Browns have a better chance at signing a WR to be an immediate impact on the offense instead of signing a LB/DB to come in and make a difference? I think a draft like RGIII, the best LB available and OL for their next 2 picks, in whatever order they want to go would work. We need some impact players on D too...with DQ in the middle, he needs some help around him bc Fajita is average, Gocong has his good game and ehh games, so I think a young LB who can make an impact would be a good pick.
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BR1986FB
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Dec 29, 2011 6:39pm
zach24oz;1030360 wrote:Don't you think the Browns have a better chance at signing a WR to be an immediate impact on the offense instead of signing a LB/DB to come in and make a difference?
Frankly, I'd like a free agent WR (for veteran guidance) AND a 1st round WR (second pick). Let's say, for example, they get Desean Jackson and stop there. That leaves D-Jax & Little with a couple of bit players (Norwood, MoMass and Cribbs, who absolutely sucks as a WR). Either get one in FA along with draft or grab two FA's but they have to have three legit options at the position, imo. I like Norwood as their 4th guy over MoMass. I don't want Cribbs on the field for anything but specials.
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Dec 29, 2011 6:54pm
Definitely a lot of scenarios to play out for this pick

/darby'd
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BR1986FB
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Dec 29, 2011 7:01pm
DeyDurkie5;1030368 wrote: /darby'd
Take that shit to the Yankees thread. :D
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Dec 29, 2011 7:10pm
BR1986FB;1030361 wrote:Frankly, I'd like a free agent WR (for veteran guidance) AND a 1st round WR (second pick). Let's say, for example, they get Desean Jackson and stop there. That leaves D-Jax & Little with a couple of bit players (Norwood, MoMass and Cribbs, who absolutely sucks as a WR). Either get one in FA along with draft or grab two FA's but they have to have three legit options at the position, imo. I like Norwood as their 4th guy over MoMass. I don't want Cribbs on the field for anything but specials.
When you say a verteran WR, what kind of quality WR are we speaking here. A true #1 WR, or a Joe J type?