like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 28, 2011 10:19am
This is more likely to happen. Heckert/Holmgren won't be willing to give up as much as the dolphins/redskins, especially only to move up one spot.Commander of Awesome;1028794 wrote:I also wouldn't be surprised at all if a team leap frogged us and traded with the Rams for RG3, we might not even get the chance to pick him.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 10:22am
we are most likely going to trade out of that spot...unless they feel the need to get RG3.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 28, 2011 10:24am
I would be fine with this, but it is def likely another team leap frogs us with a trade with the rams/vikings.DeyDurkie5;1028797 wrote:we are most likely going to trade out of that spot...unless they feel the need to get RG3.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 28, 2011 10:24am
And I wouldn't really be surprised if they try to throw the farm at the #1 pick for Luck. Holmgren knows he needs that franchise QB.Commander of Awesome;1028794 wrote:I also wouldn't be surprised at all if a team leap frogged us and traded with the Rams for RG3, we might not even get the chance to pick him.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 28, 2011 10:25am
This, I don't want to happen.BR1986FB;1028800 wrote:And I wouldn't really be surprised if they try to throw the farm at the #1 pick for Luck. Holmgren knows he needs that franchise QB.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 28, 2011 10:28am
Don't be surprised if it does. I think Holmgren knows he needs that stud QB to win in this division. I'd rather the QB fall to them but if they think they are landing the next Peyton Manning/John Elway I think they'll try.like_that;1028801 wrote:This, I don't want to happen.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 28, 2011 10:30am
When you say "farm," what would that consist of?BR1986FB;1028803 wrote:Don't be surprised if it does. I think Holmgren knows he needs that stud QB to win in this division. I'd rather the QB fall to them but if they think they are landing the next Peyton Manning/John Elway I think they'll try.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 10:31am
Bring on luck
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 28, 2011 10:34am
A lot. It would make the Falcons blush after what they gave up for Julio Jones.like_that;1028805 wrote:When you say "farm," what would that consist of?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 10:40am
Fuck it...if luck pans out as expected, we are looking at peyton manning type production..in CLEVELAND..that would give me a boner every day.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 28, 2011 10:40am
Holmgren would be a complete idiot if he did this. I would say I am going to mentally prepare for this, but there is no way. I will be pretty pissed if they throw more than the Falcons. This team is in no position at all to be giving away all those picks.BR1986FB;1028809 wrote:A lot. It would make the Falcons blush after what they gave up for Julio Jones.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 28, 2011 10:41am
I think it would take both of our firsts this year and our 1st next year. Quite possibly a 2nd this year as well.like_that;1028805 wrote:When you say "farm," what would that consist of?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 28, 2011 10:51am
I don't think it will take 3 firsts and a 2nd I'm sure both our first this year and maybe a 2nd or 3rd next year would be about right especially if the browns pick 3rd
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 28, 2011 10:53am
Honestly I'm so sick of shitty qbs in Cleveland I want a damn franchise guy. Luck is that guy he is going to be a stud. Do whatever it takes to get him. I really don't give a shit and in reality this team isn't that far away from being a legit contender. We're a legit qb another wr, corner, d end, and a lineman or 2
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 10:54am
a peyton manning type player to the browns, think of that for those not wanting to throw the barn at whichever team it will be...think about the glory..
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 28, 2011 11:08am
I remember when Mike Ditka threw the barn for Ricky Williams (the next great RB) that worked out great.:rolleyes:DeyDurkie5;1028825 wrote:a peyton manning type player to the browns, think of that for those not wanting to throw the barn at whichever team it will be...think about the glory..
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 11:14am
why dont you go fuck yourselfSkyhook79;1028834 wrote:I remember when Mike Ditka threw the barn for Ricky Williams (the next great RB) that worked out great.:rolleyes:
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 28, 2011 11:15am
QB position a little more important than RB.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 28, 2011 11:24am
For every Peyton Manning type of player, there are 10 Jamarcus Russel, Tim Couch, Tim Tebow types too. I've seen nothing from Luck that makes me think he's going to be the next Peyton Manning and that's why I'd rather not throw the barn at him.DeyDurkie5;1028825 wrote:a peyton manning type player to the browns, think of that for those not wanting to throw the barn at whichever team it will be...think about the glory..
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 11:28am
well that's your opinion..from what I have seen, he makes all the throws, is a big qb, mobile as shit, and is competitive...he's being compared to qb greats and from the eye tests, fits the mold as an NFL ready qb right now. You can take rg3, but if you can get luck, and he pans out, you are looking at a dominate qb for at least a decade.sleeper;1028852 wrote:For every Peyton Manning type of player, there are 10 Jamarcus Russel, Tim Couch, Tim Tebow types too. I've seen nothing from Luck that makes me think he's going to be the next Peyton Manning and that's why I'd rather not throw the barn at him.
I don't think you can pass that up.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 28, 2011 11:39am
Looks like the same profile on Ryan Leaf when he was going to the Pro's.DeyDurkie5;1028859 wrote:well that's your opinion..from what I have seen, he makes all the throws, is a big qb, mobile as shit, and is competitive...he's being compared to qb greats and from the eye tests, fits the mold as an NFL ready qb right now. You can take rg3, but if you can get luck, and he pans out, you are looking at a dominate qb for at least a decade.
I don't think you can pass that up.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 11:42am
please tell me more?Skyhook79;1028869 wrote:Looks like the same profile on Ryan Leaf when he was going to the Pro's.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 28, 2011 11:49am
Leaf makes all the throws, is a big qb, mobile as shit, and is competitive...Leaf is being compared to qb greats and from the eye tests, fits the mold as an NFL ready qb right now.but if you can get leaf, and he pans out, you are looking at a dominate qb for at least a decade.DeyDurkie5;1028872 wrote:please tell me more?
I don't think you can pass that up.
Hope this helps.
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Sonofanump
Dec 28, 2011 11:50am
If the price is higher than that (both firsts and a second round), I would not trade for it. I do not see how any team other than the Browns could offer anything more without extending out for first round picks a few years into the future.Crimson streak;1028818 wrote:I don't think it will take 3 firsts and a 2nd I'm sure both our first this year and maybe a 2nd or 3rd next year would be about right especially if the browns pick 3rd
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 28, 2011 11:54am
lol you are retard skyhook...are you 30 years old or above? If so, you are a sad, sad man.Skyhook79;1028877 wrote:Leaf makes all the throws, is a big qb, mobile as shit, and is competitive...Leaf is being compared to qb greats and from the eye tests, fits the mold as an NFL ready qb right now.but if you can get leaf, and he pans out, you are looking at a dominate qb for at least a decade.
I don't think you can pass that up.
Hope this helps.