lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 16, 2011 12:21pm
SportsAndLady;863977 wrote:Just get frustrated with my organization drafting someone with injury problems, then it's year 2 and he has yet to play a down and is looking at more injury problems. Maybe "vag" isn't the right word, but I dont care haha he's a vag in my book
The same running back whose injury problems enabled him to be the SEC's leading rusher. Just saying.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Aug 16, 2011 12:26pm
Is Hardesty actually injured, or is the team just taking extra precautions due to his prior injuries?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 16, 2011 12:28pm
royal_k;863987 wrote:the team just taking extra precautions due to his prior injuries?
This
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Aug 16, 2011 12:33pm
I see nothing wrong with that way of thinking. I would rather have him healthy for the last 10 games (if he misses the first 6) than have him miss the entire season again.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 16, 2011 12:47pm
SportsAndLady;863977 wrote:Just get frustrated with my organization drafting someone with injury problems, then it's year 2 and he has yet to play a down and is looking at more injury problems. Maybe "vag" isn't the right word, but I dont care haha he's a vag in my book
I agree, hated the pick as well.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 16, 2011 1:44pm
lhslep134;863981 wrote:The same running back whose injury problems enabled him to be the SEC's leading rusher. Just saying.
No one is denying his ability as a RB. But when you don't have your health, I'm better than you.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Aug 16, 2011 1:49pm
I also hated the pick. When a running back has a history of injury problems, it tends to be a recurring pattern. His body just isn't built to be an NFL running back. You can have Barry Sanders' speed, Earl Campbell's power, and Marshall Faulk's hands for all I care but if you can't stay on the field you have ZERO worth on an NFL roster.
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Aug 16, 2011 2:53pm
I'm not sure why people keep thinking he's injured still. They are bringing him along slowly after blowing out his knee less then a year ago. That's not something you just shake off. However he's gone two straight days of drills at full speed and I haven't heard anything about him starting the season on the PUP. Unless something happens I'd expect him to suit up for the first game.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Aug 16, 2011 2:57pm
So the Browns could see some Armond Smith early in the regular season if it's just Hillis and BJax as the 2 rbs? Is it set in stone that Pryor is going to play QB when/if he gets to the NFL? If he could just accept that he might not be able to play the position at the next level and could be more useful as say a WR and have a better career then just make the position switch? He would be almost unstoppable as a 6'6 wr who runs a 4.4 40.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Aug 16, 2011 3:10pm
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/08/cleveland_browns_visited_by_ji.html
Interesting reading that Norwood was getting more reps with the 1's in the slot than Little.
Interesting reading that Norwood was getting more reps with the 1's in the slot than Little.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 16, 2011 5:50pm
zach24oz;864161 wrote:http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/08/cleveland_browns_visited_by_ji.html
Interesting reading that Norwood was getting more reps with the 1's in the slot than Little.
Heckert has MAJOR wood for Norwood. He's his 'Desean Jackson lite." I expect to see A LOT of Norwood and he has a decent shot at being their #3/4 WR.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Aug 16, 2011 6:11pm
bases_loaded;863848 wrote:its better than the subtle over reaction to a shitty first preseason game by the stillers that has caused their fans to attack browns fans for their optimism.
Tiernan is not a Steelers fan.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 16, 2011 7:43pm
This. He would be really good in the red zone especially.zach24oz;864144 wrote:So the Browns could see some Armond Smith early in the regular season if it's just Hillis and BJax as the 2 rbs? Is it set in stone that Pryor is going to play QB when/if he gets to the NFL? If he could just accept that he might not be able to play the position at the next level and could be more useful as say a WR and have a better career then just make the position switch? He would be almost unstoppable as a 6'6 wr who runs a 4.4 40.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Aug 16, 2011 10:58pm
Considering some of the QBs I've seen get a shot in the NFL the past several seasons who I thought should never be drafted to play QB -- and most of them getting drafted in the first round -- there's no reason why Pryor won't get a shot, too.
Do I think he'll be a good NFL QB? No. But it only takes one stupid GM to take a flyer and he makes enough money in a few years to set himself up for life (assuming he's not too stupid about his money.)
Do I think he'll be a good NFL QB? No. But it only takes one stupid GM to take a flyer and he makes enough money in a few years to set himself up for life (assuming he's not too stupid about his money.)
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Aug 16, 2011 11:00pm
So our injury report after one pre-season game includes two of our starting LBs...
This is why Browns fans have been screaming down the house about LB depth since the NFL settled its labor issues. And why we continue to scream WTF where free agency is concerned. There have been some, still younger, decent LBers available that Cleveland has passed on.
I hope the front office knows what it's doing. I liked what I saw out of Brown and Smith, too, but it was against 2nd and 3rd stringers.
This is why Browns fans have been screaming down the house about LB depth since the NFL settled its labor issues. And why we continue to scream WTF where free agency is concerned. There have been some, still younger, decent LBers available that Cleveland has passed on.
I hope the front office knows what it's doing. I liked what I saw out of Brown and Smith, too, but it was against 2nd and 3rd stringers.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Aug 16, 2011 11:03pm
Yeah, LB depth is a real issue.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 16, 2011 11:41pm
The guy who blogs for the AFC North on ESPN, forget his name, said that the Browns should go after Maybin b/c we needed depth. He's familiar with Jauron and shouldn't command a ton of money since he's a bust. Not the kind of moves I'm comfortable with, but don't be shocked. Someone will take a shot on him, simply because he's a former first round pick. (Mike Brown and Al Davis are pondering as we speak)
After teams start cutting players, I think you'll see some guys that will be worth a shot become suddenly available. I think the Browns FO will decide to "add depth" when that happens.
After teams start cutting players, I think you'll see some guys that will be worth a shot become suddenly available. I think the Browns FO will decide to "add depth" when that happens.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 17, 2011 8:47am
I dont want Maybin personally, the guy just isn't a very good football player.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Aug 17, 2011 8:50am
The author is a former Cleveland PD reporter who covered the Cavs at one point, I believe.
No thanks on Maybin.
The Browns aren't going to have a choice on picking up at least one LB; they simply have no depth to speak of right now.
No thanks on Maybin.
The Browns aren't going to have a choice on picking up at least one LB; they simply have no depth to speak of right now.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Aug 17, 2011 9:12am
Before Maybin I'd rather try to trade a low round pick for Taylor Mays and give him a shot at OLB. I know he's small now but let him learn the position and provide depth this year. If he hits the weights this offseason and gains 10-15 to put him closer to 245 he'd be more linebacker size.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 17, 2011 9:13am
http://cle.scout.com/2/1096630.html
I'd start to question Heckert quite a bit if he picked up a 228 lb DE (Maybin) who was a failure when converted to OLB.
I'd start to question Heckert quite a bit if he picked up a 228 lb DE (Maybin) who was a failure when converted to OLB.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Aug 17, 2011 9:40am
Schefter said Jets and Bears are front runners for Maybin.BR1986FB;865083 wrote:http://cle.scout.com/2/1096630.html
I'd start to question Heckert quite a bit if he picked up a 228 lb DE (Maybin) who was a failure when converted to OLB.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 17, 2011 9:42am
mucalum49;865095 wrote:Schefter said Jets and Bears are front runners for Maybin.
Have at it. Bears seem to like picking up 1st round busts (Gholston). You'd have thought old Rex Ryan would've learned his lesson after inheriting Gholston.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 17, 2011 9:56am
BR1986FB;865097 wrote:You'd have thought old Rex Ryan would've learned his lesson after inheriting Gholston.
Pompous idiots never learn from their past mistakes.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 17, 2011 10:06am
Commander of Awesome;865120 wrote:Pompous idiots never learn from their past mistakes.
See Mangini, Eric