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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 29, 2011 2:11pm
wes_mantooth;845726 wrote:Also, I think on mike and mike....they were saying that you don't have to be at that cap number for two years. I would love to see the browns lock down some guys like joe thomas with some front loaded contracts since they aren't making any moves.
This.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 29, 2011 2:11pm
Commander of Awesome;845711 wrote:Calm down, maybe we'll actually build this team the right way moving forward. THROUGH THE DRAFT.
Yeah that has definitely worked out for the Browns the past 12 years. They should definitely keep disregarding FA even with a shit ton of cash to spend /sarcasm.
KR1245;845725 wrote:Seems like the Browns are overthinking this FA period. Its OK to throw some money at a player, the Browns need some upgrades and the draft is over. How else are they supposed to do it right now? They have the money to spend, why dont they spend some of it? I'm not saying to go out and throw 60 mil at Nnamdi but get something done.
This.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 29, 2011 2:12pm
OhioStatePride2003;845729 wrote:They are in play for Osi.
Awesome, cant wait to the giants pwn the browns in a trade or use the browns to make another team pony up for trade.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 29, 2011 2:13pm
KR1245;845725 wrote:Seems like the Browns are overthinking this FA period. Its OK to throw some money at a player, the Browns need some upgrades and the draft is over. How else are they supposed to do it right now? They have the money to spend, why dont they spend some of it? I'm not saying to go out and throw 60 mil at Nnamdi but get something done.
Well...hopefully he makes some smart decisions and plugs holes with some mid-tier guys, There are still good LB's & DE's out there to be had. Not elite but guys that can be very effective. Those are probably the kind of guys they are going to HAVE to target. Sounds like they have the "Lebron James Syndrome"...nobody of premier talent wants to be here.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jul 29, 2011 2:14pm
Commander of Awesome;845733 wrote:Awesome, cant wait to the giants pwn the browns in a trade or use the browns to make another team pony up for trade.
Bingo
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 29, 2011 2:14pm
Commander of Awesome;845733 wrote:Awesome, cant wait to the giants pwn the browns in a trade or use the browns to make another team pony up for trade.
I am iffy on getting him because of him being 29 and speed being a big part of his game....once he loses a step, he is done
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 29, 2011 2:15pm
While it would have been nice to pick up a FA, i'm not too worried that they aren't getting any big name players. Obviously i wanted them to just because they have so much room to spend.
But keep in mind, MOST free agents are free agents because they have a flaw of soem sorts..whether its on the field or off the field. If they were big time, franchise type players; their teams would try all they could to bring them back. So it's not a big deal not pulling in free agents.
But keep in mind, MOST free agents are free agents because they have a flaw of soem sorts..whether its on the field or off the field. If they were big time, franchise type players; their teams would try all they could to bring them back. So it's not a big deal not pulling in free agents.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 29, 2011 2:15pm
like_that;845732 wrote:Yeah that has definitely worked out for the Browns the past 12 years. They should definitely keep disregarding FA even with a shit ton of cash to spend /sarcasm.
Yeah you're right, we should bring in big name FAs like Gary Baxter, Willie McGinnest, Ted Washington, Joe J, Jeff Garcia, Shaun Rogers, Brian Russell, Abe Elam, Shaun Smith, Corey Williams, Jamal Lewis, Joe Andruzzi, Hank Frarely, and LeCharles Bentley. /sarcasm.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 29, 2011 2:17pm
like_that;845732 wrote:Yeah that has definitely worked out for the Browns the past 12 years. They should definitely keep disregarding FA even with a **** ton of cash to spend /sarcasm.
This.
Heckart and Holmgren haven't been running the draft the last 12 years either.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 29, 2011 2:17pm
Hank Fraley was brought in via trade
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 29, 2011 2:19pm
OhioStatePride2003;845745 wrote:Heckart and Holmgren haven't been running the draft the last 12 years either.
True story. If they can get a LB, a DE and an OL before this FA ends, I'll be pleased. Heckert has CLEARY said they are "looking to get younger." It may be painful to watch, for a little while longer, but it WILL get better. We've waited since 1999...what the fuck is another couple of years?
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 29, 2011 2:19pm
DE Antwan Odom and CB Morgan Trent were released by the Bengals today. Two "mid-level" guys that could contribute imo. Odom is known for injuries but isn't horrible. Eric Wright going to Detroit on a one year deal, the Browns must not have been serious about him.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 29, 2011 2:22pm
For those hoping we snag Osi - They're entertaining the thought, but clearly the Front Office wants to build this team with youth and draft picks. Unless the Giants are willing to let him go for a mid-level pick, he won't be a Brown. H&H value picks way too much.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 29, 2011 2:23pm
Commander of Awesome;845743 wrote:Yeah you're right, we should bring in big name FAs like Gary Baxter, Willie McGinnest, Ted Washington, Joe J, Jeff Garcia, Shaun Rogers, Brian Russell, Abe Elam, Shaun Smith, Corey Williams, Jamal Lewis, Joe Andruzzi, Hank Frarely, and LeCharles Bentley. /sarcasm.
LeCharles got hurt, just like any drafted player can get hurt (see kellen winslow). Shaun Rogers wasn't a free agent nice fail. Cry about Jamal all you want, but if it wasn't for him the Browns wouldn't have had a 10 win season in 2007. Same with Joe J.
The rest of the guys were just mid level pick ups, and I am pretty sure the Browns didn't have the type of cap space they have right now, and I am also confident there weren't as many good FAs those years as there is right now. THEY HAVE TO spend, and they are striking out.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 29, 2011 2:24pm
MaryKayCabot Mary Kay Cabot
#Browns were never interested in Vikings DE Ray Edwards, who signed 5 yr deal with Falcons. B's never called or returned calls, source said.
Who knows if this is true or not, but this shows that our own media really has no freaking idea what i going on. At least Grossi knows he is a moron and doesn't even try.
#Browns were never interested in Vikings DE Ray Edwards, who signed 5 yr deal with Falcons. B's never called or returned calls, source said.
Who knows if this is true or not, but this shows that our own media really has no freaking idea what i going on. At least Grossi knows he is a moron and doesn't even try.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jul 29, 2011 2:24pm
Mary Kay Cabot says the Browns were never interested in Ray Edwards, they never called him or returned calls. Interesting.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 29, 2011 2:25pm
OhioStatePride2003;845753 wrote:For those hoping we snag Osi - They're entertaining the thought, but clearly the Front Office wants to build this team with youth and draft picks. Unless the Giants are willing to let him go for a mid-level pick, he won't be a Brown. H&H value picks way too much.
Like I said, no higher than a 4th for him. I think I'd rather focus on some of the other DE's out there.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jul 29, 2011 2:26pm
iclfan2;845757 wrote:MaryKayCabot Mary Kay Cabot
#Browns were never interested in Vikings DE Ray Edwards, who signed 5 yr deal with Falcons. B's never called or returned calls, source said.
Who knows if this is true or not, but this shows that our own media really has no freaking idea what i going on. At least Grossi knows he is a moron and doesn't even try.
It really wasn't our own media reporting the Ray Edwards stuff. It was pretty much the national guys. That could be for a couple reasons:
1 - our local media guys are awful
2 - Edwards' agent was throwing stuff out there to try to generate more interest in his client.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 29, 2011 2:26pm
We gave up a 3rd and Leigh Bodden for Rogers, a 2nd round pick for Williams. I dont want to repeat the same mistake on Osi Failmenyoura
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 29, 2011 2:27pm
OhioStatePride2003;845753 wrote:For those hoping we snag Osi - They're entertaining the thought, but clearly the Front Office wants to build this team with youth and draft picks. Unless the Giants are willing to let him go for a mid-level pick, he won't be a Brown. H&H value picks way too much.
I am ok with that too. I don't want the Browns trading for anyone, I want them signing free agents. Don't give away any draft picks.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 29, 2011 2:29pm
BR1986FB;845759 wrote:Like I said, no higher than a 4th for him. I think I'd rather focus on some of the other DE's out there.
Antwan Odom?
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 29, 2011 2:33pm
Apparently the team is really struggling with contracts this offseason. Phil Taylor's contract has hit an "unknown" snag.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 29, 2011 2:59pm
Wooball;845760 wrote:It really wasn't our own media reporting the Ray Edwards stuff. It was pretty much the national guys. That could be for a couple reasons:
1 - our local media guys are awful
2 - Edwards' agent was throwing stuff out there to try to generate more interest in his client.
See....here's the thing.... this "incarceratedBob" guy who claims to have hit on 11 predictions on where these guys are going to land could be a complete "hack." But....if that's the case, that makes ALL of the Insiders over on the OBR "hacks" too because Lane & the gang were saying that things were "close" between Edwards and the Browns...doesn't make sense.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 29, 2011 3:03pm
Regarding the "floor" of the cap...
Bob Glauber
Music to Mike Brown's ears for 2011-12. RT @joereedy The floor and minimum cash spends for each team start in 2013 #bengals
Bob Glauber
Music to Mike Brown's ears for 2011-12. RT @joereedy The floor and minimum cash spends for each team start in 2013 #bengals
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 29, 2011 3:10pm
Losing out on Edwards got me thinking, when the hell is that cocksucker Modell going to die anyways?
Glad to see a site like this exists.
http://www.ridertown.com/news/MDW/MDW.html
Amazing Quote; "This is why grown men who fought wars and played football without face masks cried when Art Modell announced he was moving the franchise to Baltimore. These players had turned into fans themselves and understood what the Browns meant to the community. In a word, they meant everything. "It was like losing a relative," Hall of Famer and season-ticket holder Lou Groza said. Or worse."
Fuck you modell.
Glad to see a site like this exists.
http://www.ridertown.com/news/MDW/MDW.html
Amazing Quote; "This is why grown men who fought wars and played football without face masks cried when Art Modell announced he was moving the franchise to Baltimore. These players had turned into fans themselves and understood what the Browns meant to the community. In a word, they meant everything. "It was like losing a relative," Hall of Famer and season-ticket holder Lou Groza said. Or worse."
Fuck you modell.