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Aug 21, 2011 10:57 AM
I finally get to watch a browns game this week as they play Philly. That being said, Philly really struggled against the steelers and Vick was absolutely horrible. It will be a good test for McCoy with the excellent DB's that Philly has.
Aug 21, 2011 10:57am
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Aug 21, 2011 12:47 PM
does anybody know if the game will be live on tv in toledo thursday night?
Aug 21, 2011 12:47pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:15 PM
How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.
Aug 21, 2011 1:15pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:26 PM
robj55;869055 wrote:How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.

We have a back up in Seneca Wallace.
Aug 21, 2011 1:26pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:29 PM
Commander of Awesome;869064 wrote:We have a back up in Seneca Wallace.

3rd string, people don't seem to enthralled about Brown it seems.
Aug 21, 2011 1:29pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:31 PM
robj55;869055 wrote:How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.

Because Carolina is fucking stupid. Putting the number one overall pick into an "athlete" QB...lol
Aug 21, 2011 1:31pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:33 PM
Atleast cam newton can throw a ball Pryor can't
Aug 21, 2011 1:33pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:34 PM
Heretic;869069 wrote:Because Carolina is ****ing stupid. Putting the number one overall pick into an "athlete" QB...lol

Yes but even if they didn't select him he still would have gone in the first round. That's a hell of a gap between a perceived first round pick and a 4th-7th.
Aug 21, 2011 1:34pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:36 PM
robj55;869055 wrote:How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.

Umm, no. First subpar game McCoy has and all of the Buckeye nuthuggers will be screaming for career benchwarmer Smith. He's no better than Wallace.
Aug 21, 2011 1:36pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:36 PM
Crimson streak;869072 wrote:Atleast cam newton can throw a ball Pryor can't

Pryor was just as accurate and played in a pro style offense though, not an option read offense where most of his throws were one read screens.
Aug 21, 2011 1:36pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:37 PM
BR1986FB;869078 wrote:Umm, no. First subpar game McCoy has and all of the Buckeye nuthuggers will be screaming for career benchwarmer Smith.

Just saying that it doesn't hurt to have depth, especially quality depth.
Aug 21, 2011 1:37pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:37 PM
robj55;869079 wrote:Pryor was just as accurate and played in a pro style offense though, not an option read offense where most of his throws were one read screens.

Pryor isn't accurate enough for the WCO.
Aug 21, 2011 1:37pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:38 PM
BR1986FB;869078 wrote:Umm, no. First subpar game McCoy has and all of the Buckeye nuthuggers will be screaming for career benchwarmer Smith. He's no better than Wallace.

And truthfully we don't know that McCoy won't be a career bench warmer at this point.
Aug 21, 2011 1:38pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:39 PM
BR1986FB;869083 wrote:Pryor isn't accurate enough for the WCO.

You're probably right, most people don't realize that Pryor's numbers were better than a guy like Aaron Rodgers however.
Aug 21, 2011 1:39pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:40 PM
robj55;869081 wrote:Just saying that it doesn't hurt to have depth, especially quality depth.

Not unproven depth that could cause a QB controversy just because of the college he attended. The "legend" of Troy Smith, who has never been able to win a starting NFL job for a prolonged period of time is, well, legendary. He's a sure first ballot Hall of Famer just due to said "legend." Even Uncle Rico blushes at his "accomplishments."
Aug 21, 2011 1:40pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:43 PM
BR1986FB;869088 wrote:Not unproven depth that could cause a QB controversy just because of the college he attended. The "legend" of Troy Smith, who has never been able to win a starting NFL job for a prolonged period of time is, well, legendary. He's a sure first ballot Hall of Famer just due to said "legend." Even Uncle Rico blushes at his "accomplishments."

I understand your point.
Aug 21, 2011 1:43pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:46 PM
robj55;869084 wrote:And truthfully we don't know that McCoy won't be a career bench warmer at this point.

I'd be willing to bet that McCoy has a better career, as a quarterback, than Pryor does.
Aug 21, 2011 1:46pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:49 PM
Confirmed that Evan Moore has a mild concussion.
Aug 21, 2011 1:49pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:49 PM
BR1986FB;869094 wrote:I'd be willing to bet that McCoy has a better career, as a quarterback, than Pryor does.

I'm not betting against you, just saying that there are a lot of things unproven at this point.
Aug 21, 2011 1:49pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:51 PM
robj55;869097 wrote:I'm not betting against you, just saying that there are a lot of things unproven at this point.

Agreed but I'm expecting at least 20 TD's and 3000+ yards passing this year if he stays healthy this year. Shurmur uses the pass to set up the run. If anyone has a "falloff" it will be Hillis.
Aug 21, 2011 1:51pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:53 PM
robj55;869086 wrote:You're probably right, most people don't realize that Pryor's numbers were better than a guy like Aaron Rodgers however.

And Chad Henne had better numbers than Pryor in a pro style offense. And as a Dolphins fan, you know how that worked out for ya lol
Aug 21, 2011 1:53pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:55 PM
For Browns fans, is it just me or does it look like the Browns FINALLY have a "real" head coach? It's just the way Shurmur carries himself and goes about his business. Dude looks like he knows what he's doing. Having a fallback like Holmgren can't hurt. Just an observation...
Aug 21, 2011 1:55pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:56 PM
Hb31187;869100 wrote:And Chad Henne had better numbers than Pryor in a pro style offense. And as a Dolphins fan, you know how that worked out for ya lol

LOL don't remind me, Henne's problem is mental though, he has the arm and the accuracy most of the time. He has mental lapses and folds under pressure.
Aug 21, 2011 1:56pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:57 PM
BR1986FB;869099 wrote:Agreed but I'm expecting at least 20 TD's and 3000+ yards passing this year if he stays healthy this year. Shurmur uses the pass to set up the run. If anyone has a "falloff" it will be Hillis.

I will be pleasantly surprised if he puts up those numbers.
Aug 21, 2011 1:57pm
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Aug 21, 2011 1:59 PM
BR1986FB;869102 wrote:For Browns fans, is it just me or does it look like the Browns FINALLY have a "real" head coach? It's just the way Shurmur carries himself and goes about his business. Dude looks like he knows what he's doing. Having a fallback like Holmgren can't hurt. Just an observation...
Probably will be easier to tell once the season hits and you see how he reacts to adversity and what not. Looks leaps and bounds better than the past few though
Aug 21, 2011 1:59pm