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Dec 26, 2010 9:09 AM
Ty Webb;613530 wrote:I honestly don't think you'll ever see Braxton Miller start a game at QB for Ohio State. He is too good of an athlete and I think Tressel will end up using him in a role similar to Percy Harvin as Florida

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Dec 26, 2010 9:09am
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Dec 26, 2010 1:57 PM
You people crack me up. First, off I saw Miller play a couple of times. Great kids and lots of upside. No way he will see he field at OSU next year, he needs to redshirt. If any of the seniors leave it will be Boom. No loss as they are deep at running back. Pryor will be back maybe after four game suspension. He will still be the best QB to have played ever at OSU. I don't see the Bucks losing any of the first four games. Prior will still have one of the best senior years of any QB at Ohio State. You pretend fans need to start rooting for someone else.
Dec 26, 2010 1:57pm
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Dec 26, 2010 2:00 PM
Lol at Miller not starting at QB.

IF Pryor leaves I think Miller takes over the starting job. Although he is young, he is just too talented (watched him in person against Northmont and the state finals). With him coming in early to learn the offense, I have no issues with throwing him into the QB spot if he has earned it during practice. He is a better passer right now than what Pryor was coming in. Without Miller, Wayne wouldn't even have sniffed the playoffs yet alone make the D1 State Finals. Not saying he is going to be great, but he'll be the best option OSU has next season if Pryor is gone.

Berry, Hall, Smith, and Hyde. One of those guys will pan out to be the stud RB we need. Right now those guys haven't gotten the chance.
Dec 26, 2010 2:00pm
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Dec 26, 2010 2:03 PM
Bigdogg,

Pretend fans?

Maybe you should learn how to spell the best QB to ever play at OSU's name before you start posting.
Dec 26, 2010 2:03pm
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Dec 26, 2010 2:16 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;613411 wrote:I agree. I was thoroughly impressed with Braxton in the State title game. I think he throws a better ball NOW (as a h.s. senior) than Pryor does (as a collegiate junior).

It's a lot easier to throw good balls and you obviously look a lot better in high school than you do playing against Wisconsin, Miami (FL), Nebraska, etc.

Not saying your statement is false, just saying that I will wait on the assumption that Miller has a better arm than Pryor right now.
Dec 26, 2010 2:16pm
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Dec 26, 2010 2:22 PM
SportsAndLady;613748 wrote:It's a lot easier to throw good balls and you obviously look a lot better in high school than you do playing against Wisconsin, Miami (FL), Nebraska, etc.

Not saying your statement is false, just saying that I will wait on the assumption that Miller has a better arm than Pryor right now.

Level of competition has no relevance at all when judging someones arm strength and velocity.

Does playing against St. Edwards make you have worse arm strength and accuracy than when you play against Nebraska? I don't think so.

Now judgement and decision making is going to be way more difficult when playing at a higher level, but if you got the arm its not going to go away if you play better competition. Just have to make better decisions and be able to think quicker since the game will be at a faster pace.

Not going to argue a whole lot but if the kid can throw, the kid can throw.

There are some things you can tell about a player no matter what level of play. Arm strength and accuracy is one of those things imo.
Dec 26, 2010 2:22pm
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devil1197

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Dec 26, 2010 2:31 PM
Not to mention that 6+ months of collegiate strength and conditioning with Miller coming in early.
Dec 26, 2010 2:31pm
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Dec 26, 2010 2:56 PM
Bigdogg;613735 wrote:You people crack me up. First, off I saw Miller play a couple of times. Great kids and lots of upside. No way he will see he field at OSU next year, he needs to redshirt. If any of the seniors leave it will be Boom. No loss as they are deep at running back. Prior will be back maybe after four game suspension. He will still be the best QB to have played ever at OSU. I don't see the Bucks losing any of the first four games. Prior will still have one of the best senior years of any QB at Ohio State. You pretend fans need to start rooting for someone else.
devil1197;613740 wrote:Bigdogg,

Pretend fans?

Maybe you should learn how to spell the best QB to ever play at OSU's name before you start posting.

touche'--it's tough to take someone who claims to be a Buckeye fan seriously when they can't even spell the name of the QB who's been there for three years :rolleyes:
Dec 26, 2010 2:56pm
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Dec 26, 2010 3:16 PM
devil1197;613750 wrote:Level of competition has no relevance at all when judging someones arm strength and velocity.

Does playing against St. Edwards make you have worse arm strength and accuracy than when you play against Nebraska? I don't think so.

Now judgement and decision making is going to be way more difficult when playing at a higher level, but if you got the arm its not going to go away if you play better competition. Just have to make better decisions and be able to think quicker since the game will be at a faster pace.

Not going to argue a whole lot but if the kid can throw, the kid can throw.

There are some things you can tell about a player no matter what level of play. Arm strength and accuracy is one of those things imo.

I'm saying you can look a lot more accurate than you are wehn playing against high school kids. In college, that pass has to be spot on. In high school, it can be a little off, and still be completed.
Dec 26, 2010 3:16pm
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Dec 26, 2010 4:08 PM
The same guy who asked who were Mike, Sam and Will trying to act like he knows what hes talking about.

SMH
Dec 26, 2010 4:08pm
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Dec 26, 2010 4:12 PM
Tigerfan00;613830 wrote:The same guy who asked who were Mike, Sam and Will trying to act like he knows what hes talking about.

SMH

You gonna post that on every thread, or are you gonna STFU already?
Dec 26, 2010 4:12pm
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Dec 26, 2010 4:23 PM
All im saying is dont come on here like you have a clue when you clearly didnt and dont.

When you said in college the pass "has to be spot on", youve got to be kidding on that one. How many times has Pryor made horrible throws that were still completed or any other college QB for that matter. I could see if you were talking the NFL but in college thats far from the truth.
Dec 26, 2010 4:23pm
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Dec 26, 2010 4:26 PM
Tigerfan00;613843 wrote:All im saying is dont come on here like you have a clue when you clearly didnt and dont.

When you said in college the pass "has to be spot on", youve got to be kidding on that one. How many times has Pryor made horrible throws that were still completed or any other college QB for that matter. I could see if you were talking the NFL but in college thats far from the truth.

Against Nebraska, Wisconsin, and other top defenses that OSU plays, the passes have to be in the right position. You can get away with it against Toledo, Akron, and the high school state title, but not against good college teams.

And i'm guessing you've never looked ignorant once in your life..is that right?
Dec 26, 2010 4:26pm
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Dec 26, 2010 4:44 PM
Pryor did it regardless of who they played against and obviously he will never have the smarts to get any better. Miller will be a much better product with the experience he gets so why not get him in there now and let him learn rather than having him sit behind Pryor who will never have "IT".
Dec 26, 2010 4:44pm
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Dec 26, 2010 4:52 PM
Tigerfan00;613855 wrote:Pryor did it regardless of who they played against and obviously he will never have the smarts to get any better. Miller will be a much better product with the experience he gets so why not get him in there now and let him learn rather than having him sit behind Pryor who will never have "IT".

Pryor did, regardless of who they played against?

Lets look at his 4 games against good teams:

Miami (FL) 12/27 1 td 0 int
Wisconsin 14/28 0 td 1 int
Penn State 8/13 2 td 1 int
Iowa 18/33 1 td 2 int

Sorry, but that's not getting it done...but hey, I'm sure Pryor looked real great in the state finals game in 2008.
Dec 26, 2010 4:52pm
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Dec 26, 2010 4:56 PM
When I said Pryor did it, I was referring to he played bad against good teams and bad teams and Im not saying every game but he just seemed to never figure it out kind of like why the Jets punted it with three minutes left.

How was Pryor playing for the Buckeyes and in the state semis at the same time in 2008?
Dec 26, 2010 4:56pm
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Dec 26, 2010 5:04 PM
Look, all I'm saying is I'm not gonna say a high school senior right now has a more accurate arm, just because he looks good against high school opponents. I want the kid to start if Pryor is gone, but I'm not gonna anticipate a great season. It's just different.
Dec 26, 2010 5:04pm
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Dec 26, 2010 5:05 PM
Sorry, but that's not getting it done...but hey, I'm sure Pryor looked real great in the state finals game in 2008.[/QUOTE]

Good one
Dec 26, 2010 5:05pm
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Dec 26, 2010 5:10 PM
Tiger, you're right in saying that Braxton is probably more accurate than Pryor, but that's because Pryor is awful.

And S&L is right in saying you can't really compare high school and college. Much faster athletes, throws need to be more accurate. You can tell arm strength in high school but IMO it's kinda moot because of the fantastic strength and conditioning he will go through once he gets to school.
Dec 26, 2010 5:10pm
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Dec 26, 2010 5:15 PM
Yeah I mean every major university's QB recruits look accurate and strong in high school, because the level of play they are up against allows that perception.

But they don't all pan out, because college is different.

Not saying Miller will or will not pan out..just not gonna make a judgment on him because he is an amazing high school QB.
Dec 26, 2010 5:15pm
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Dec 26, 2010 5:28 PM
Devil and Scarlet were the ones talking about what Miller looked like in high school, not me.

Im just one of the many people whos tired of Pryors shit and not getting any better. When he said "everyone kills people", thats all I needed to hear about his intelligence level. If he hasnt gotten any better by now then he never will and sitting out however many games it ends up being isnt going to help him any so I hope he goes pro and let Miller and the rest of the new guys on offense get time on the field together and get better with the experience they get together.
Dec 26, 2010 5:28pm
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Dec 26, 2010 5:34 PM
Tigerfan00;613901 wrote:Devil and Scarlet were the ones talking about what Miller looked like in high school, not me.

Im just one of the many people whos tired of Pryors shit and not getting any better. When he said "everyone kills people", thats all I needed to hear about his intelligence level. If he hasnt gotten any better by now then he never will and sitting out however many games it ends up being isnt going to help him any so I hope he goes pro and let Miller and the rest of the new guys on offense get time on the field together and get better with the experience they get together.

Pryor is a winner, period. He may not be the best QB and he may be frustrating to watch sometimes, but he's a winner. And next year when Pryor is gone, and the Bucks are 9-3 playing in a bowl game around this time against the 4th ranked Big 12 team, you may re think your opinions on Pryor. Because you know with Pryor back next year, this team is in a BCS bowl, maybe even the title game.
Dec 26, 2010 5:34pm
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Dec 26, 2010 5:47 PM
They made BCS bowls before Pryor and they will make them after. I could live with 9-3 next year knowing most of the team will be back that following year and will be better. Each of Pryors years we keep saying this is the year and then we see he hasnt gotten any better, hes just a great athlete who can make some big plays with no brains and constantly yells at the other players like its their faults.

You talk about playing in a BCS bowl next year? We lose just about the whole defense, Sanz, Saine and Boren and maybe Posey is gone from the offense so we would have nothing coming back at WR besides Brown who caught a few passes and thats not even counting if any Juniors leave early.
Dec 26, 2010 5:47pm
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Dec 26, 2010 6:45 PM
Okay, I am not saying that Pryor is great or anything like that...but if you think he hasn't improved from year to year, you are incapable of having this conversation with.
Dec 26, 2010 6:45pm
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Dec 26, 2010 6:49 PM
Tigerfan00;613913 wrote:You talk about playing in a BCS bowl next year? We lose just about the whole defense, Sanz, Saine and Boren and maybe Posey is gone from the offense so we would have nothing coming back at WR besides Brown who caught a few passes and thats not even counting if any Juniors leave early.

You said "they made BCS bowl before Pryor and they will make them after" well, they've said the same thing you just did about losing a bunch of players and doubting their chances at a BCS bowl, and yet they've been to what? 6 straight? It's very cliche, but its true...OSU reloads, they don't rebuild.
Dec 26, 2010 6:49pm