12/31 Sun Bowl: Notre Dame Fighting Irish (7-5) vs. Miami Hurricanes (7-5)

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Tobias Fünke

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Dec 6, 2010 2:53 AM
You are giving that game twice as much credit as it deserved. :D
Dec 6, 2010 2:53am
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vball10set

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Dec 6, 2010 7:54 AM
Catholics - 28
Convicts - 24
Dec 6, 2010 7:54am
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Tiernan

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Dec 6, 2010 9:19 AM
^^^
Ahhhh VBall ya beat me to it.

I love how some of the Domers are trying to legitimize the F'n SUN BOWL..."its historic", "El Paso is great in Dec" , "longtime network affiliation". C'mon people you can't put lipstick on a pig...this POS Bowl is as second rate as they come and you all know it. Neither team is good enough to win it.
Dec 6, 2010 9:19am
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Hulk Smash

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Dec 6, 2010 9:29 AM
The Sun Bowl should be used to getting "big name" teams.......................................when those teams have down years.

Being in this bowl with a 7-5 record represents a good 2010 for Notre Dame.
Being in this bowl with a 7-5 record got the Hurricanes head coach dismissed.
Dec 6, 2010 9:29am
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Tobias Fünke

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Dec 6, 2010 1:03 PM
BK on Miami defense: "They have as much talent as USC does on defense."
That is exactly how I feel.
Dec 6, 2010 1:03pm
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rock_knutne

Dec 6, 2010 5:37 PM
Tobias Fünke;589680 wrote:LOL @ sleeper starting "The Sun Bowl" thread. What a pathetic little man.
I just looked at that forum.......hardly any threads and very little response to those threads. It's so nice not having to read sleepers quoted posts on an ND thread anymore. Thanks justin and company for taking the initiative and doing somethong about it.
Dec 6, 2010 5:37pm
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rock_knutne

Dec 6, 2010 5:39 PM
ccrunner609;589057 wrote:yawn

I suggest you go to bed, maybe a power nap?
Dec 6, 2010 5:39pm
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karen lotz

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Dec 6, 2010 11:00 PM
The Sun Bowl between Notre Dame and Miami is sold out. Game sold out in 21 hours. Previous Sun Bowl record to reach a sellout was 15 days.
Not too bad.
Dec 6, 2010 11:00pm
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Tobias Fünke

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Dec 7, 2010 8:20 AM
Notre Dame has never had a first-year coach win a bowl game. Not Holtz, not Devine, not Parseghian. None of them.
Dec 7, 2010 8:20am
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Dec 7, 2010 11:51 AM
The Notre Dame Administration didn't allow the team to play in bowl games from 1925 to 1970 so that stat may be a little misleading. It would be nice for Kelly to make history though...
Dec 7, 2010 11:51am
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Tiernan

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Dec 7, 2010 2:15 PM
Tobias Fünke;591045 wrote:Notre Dame has never had a first-year coach win a bowl game. Not Holtz, not Devine, not Parseghian. None of them.
Actually most people would agree with me that Kelly lost the Sugar Bowl last year after abandoning his Cinci kids to take the ND job 3 weeks before the bowl. Real classy stuff.*

*doing sleepers work in absentia
Dec 7, 2010 2:15pm
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Dec 7, 2010 5:39 PM
karen lotz;591187 wrote:The Notre Dame Administration didn't allow the team to play in bowl games from 1925 to 1970 so that stat may be a little misleading. It would be nice for Kelly to make history though...

What was the reasoning for not letting them play in bowl games?
Dec 7, 2010 5:39pm
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Hamp89

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Dec 7, 2010 7:50 PM
wes_mantooth;591560 wrote:What was the reasoning for not letting them play in bowl games?

If I remember correctly, back then the National Champions were picked at the end of the regular season, so many teams felt bowl games were worthless and a waste of time. I could be way off, but I think that is the major reason.

Crazy fact: in 1973 ND played Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, which ND won - they were both 11-0 going into the game, but Alabama claims that year as a Nat'l title because they were awarded it by the UPI BEFORE the bowl game. (ND also claims this year because they were awarded the AP Nat'l Championship prior to the game, and won the bowl game finishing undefeated).
Dec 7, 2010 7:50pm
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Dec 7, 2010 7:54 PM
wes_mantooth;591560 wrote:What was the reasoning for not letting them play in bowl games?
There was nothing ever officially said as to why they didn't. Some speculation was because the first trip to the Rose Bowl took a month to get to Pasadena and back by train. Academics, not wanting to be seen as a football factory are other guesses. The administration and Rockne decided against it and for whatever reason they kept the policy in place for 40 some years.
Dec 7, 2010 7:54pm
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Dec 8, 2010 8:05 AM
karen lotz;591690 wrote:not wanting to be seen as a football factory are other guesses..
...and another guess being they just didn't want to get beat.*


*doing sleepers work in absentia
Dec 8, 2010 8:05am
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Dec 8, 2010 8:31 AM
karen lotz;591690 wrote:There was nothing ever officially said as to why they didn't. Some speculation was because the first trip to the Rose Bowl took a month to get to Pasadena and back by train. Academics, not wanting to be seen as a football factory are other guesses. The administration and Rockne decided against it and for whatever reason they kept the policy in place for 40 some years.

are these your guesses, or are these the guesses of someone else? the travel theory sounds valid, but I'm curious as to the real reasoning behind it (for the record, academics may very well have been a reason, but I'd like to see it on a little better authority)
Dec 8, 2010 8:31am
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rock_knutne

Dec 8, 2010 11:19 AM
^^^^I've searched high and low as to why ND didn't accept bowl bids in those years and have found nothing. IMO, the football factory excuse and travel doesn't make sense, Rockne made those trips out West because it was lucrative and that money built the University. Same thing with playing Army at Yankee Stadium and some games at the Polo Grounds, it was a money maker. I think it had more to do with academics than anything else but like the others, it's a guess on my part.
Dec 8, 2010 11:19am
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Dec 8, 2010 11:32 AM
thanks, rock, and I tend to agree with you...academics has always been a part of Notre Dame's mission statement, and it seems that they've been pretty consistent with that philosophy (much to the chagrin of some Domers, I'm sure)
Dec 8, 2010 11:32am
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Dec 8, 2010 12:39 PM
Yeah those guesses I listed I found in an article from SI whenever the bowl ban stopped. I wasn't alive in 1926 so I don't know exactly what the reasoning was. Like Rock and I said, there never was an official reason given as to why they didn't play.
Dec 8, 2010 12:39pm
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rock_knutne

Dec 8, 2010 3:21 PM
^^^^I'm going to find an answer to that no bowl policy if it kills me. There has to be something on it somewhere.
Dec 8, 2010 3:21pm
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karen lotz

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Dec 8, 2010 3:31 PM
I've always wondered but never really looked in to it, just assumed academics was the reason. I did look for a while last night and the only thing I could find was that SI article from 1969 I believe.
Dec 8, 2010 3:31pm
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Dec 12, 2010 4:28 PM
sherm03;588777 wrote:I love Rocket's story about Lou Holtz after the fight broke out. He said that when they went back into the locker room after the fight...Holtz came in fuming mad. All the players were worried that he was going to go crazy on them and yell about them fighting. He came into the locker room and says, "Men...leave Jimmy Johnson for me!" The players went crazy...and Rocket said that it was that moment that they knew they were going to beat Miami that day.

Looking forward to this game. Glad to see the Irish got a New Year's Eve bowl so they can take full advantage of the practice time.
Scarlet_Fever;588887 wrote:Don't like Notre Dame but have always liked Lou. If true that quote by Lou is hilarious.

Found the video of it. It's really funny to hear Rocket tell the story...

[video=youtube;yq1PXq2egMg][/video]
Dec 12, 2010 4:28pm
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rock_knutne

Dec 13, 2010 9:02 PM
^^^Read that article today, he's definitley got a chip on his shoulder after Miami told him he was too small to play for them.
Dec 13, 2010 9:02pm