Should the BIG EAST get an automatic BCS bid?

Home ▸ Archive ▸ College Sports ▸ Should the BIG EAST get an automatic BCS bid?
Spread All Day's avatar

Spread All Day

Welcome to the Jungle

985 posts
Dec 4, 2010 11:40 PM
I dont think so.
A 7-5 team is going to a bcs bowl game (UCONN)
Should be a very terrible game.
Dec 4, 2010 11:40pm
darbypitcher22's avatar

darbypitcher22

Senior Member

8,000 posts
Dec 4, 2010 11:41 PM
I believe that UCONN is actually 8-4.

That being said, most of us would agree that no, an 8-4 club doesn't deserve to play in a BCS game. But, a contract is a contract and a tie-in is a tie-in, and they won the right to represent their league
Dec 4, 2010 11:41pm
D

dtdtim

Senior Member

358 posts
Dec 4, 2010 11:45 PM
Yes, they should.

If their automatic qualifier finishes in the top 15 of the BCS rankings. If not, they should be considered in the same field as the at-larges. The same goes for the ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac 10, and SEC.
Dec 4, 2010 11:45pm
Spread All Day's avatar

Spread All Day

Welcome to the Jungle

985 posts
Dec 4, 2010 11:49 PM
dtdtim;587974 wrote:Yes, they should.

If their automatic qualifier finishes in the top 15 of the BCS rankings. If not, they should be considered in the same field as the at-larges. The same goes for the ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac 10, and SEC.

My mistake on their record.
Dtdtim- thats actually a very good idea.
Dec 4, 2010 11:49pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:03 AM
$10 says an SEC team plays against them, beats them(I mean who wouldn't?) and then tries to use that win as proof that the SEC is the best conference(its not).
Dec 5, 2010 12:03am
LJ's avatar

LJ

Senior Member

16,351 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:07 AM
sleeper;588014 wrote:$10 says an SEC team plays against them, beats them(I mean who wouldn't?) and then tries to use that win as proof that the SEC is the best conference(its not).

$1,000 says that doesn't happen.
Dec 5, 2010 12:07am
jordo212000's avatar

jordo212000

Senior Member

10,664 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:09 AM
The Big East is bad. It makes me a little upset that TCU bailed them out, but I guess I understand. They will get more exposure in other sports than what they would get playing in the Mtn West.

Just think of how good the Mountain West would have been if everybody stayed
Dec 5, 2010 12:09am
M

Manhattan Buckeye

Senior Member

7,566 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:13 AM
"The Big East is bad. It makes me a little upset that TCU bailed them out, but I guess I understand. "

We'll see how long this bail-out lasts...my spidey sense tells me the football teams that have strong basketball programs (i.e. 'Cuse and UConn) might be negotiating with the ACC. This could be a short-term band-aid.
Dec 5, 2010 12:13am
IggyPride00's avatar

IggyPride00

Senior Member

6,482 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:17 AM
and then tries to use that win as proof that the SEC is the best conference(its not).
Is there really any argument other than them being the best if Auburn wins it this year? 5 titles in a row by 4 different teams, what other league right now can come even close to that? I am not an SEC fanboy by any means, but I just don't see how it would be possible to argue anything other than them being the best if Auburn pulls this off.
Dec 5, 2010 12:17am
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:26 AM
They can win as many titles as they want in a row, still a losing record to the Big Ten.
Dec 5, 2010 12:26am
Tobias Fünke's avatar

Tobias Fünke

formerly "sjmvsfscs08"

2,387 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:27 AM
sleeper;588014 wrote:$10 says an SEC team plays against them, beats them(I mean who wouldn't?) and then tries to use that win as proof that the SEC is the best conference(its not).

Deal.
Dec 5, 2010 12:27am
jordo212000's avatar

jordo212000

Senior Member

10,664 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:28 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;588031 wrote:"The Big East is bad. It makes me a little upset that TCU bailed them out, but I guess I understand. "

We'll see how long this bail-out lasts...my spidey sense tells me the football teams that have strong basketball programs (i.e. 'Cuse and UConn) might be negotiating with the ACC. This could be a short-term band-aid.

Seems like a lateral move at this point to me. Big East basketball trumps ACC basketball, and with TCU the conference won't be losing their AQ status. They have no reason to leave
Dec 5, 2010 12:28am
B

bigkahuna

Senior Member

4,454 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:33 AM
I was thinking about this the other day. What made the Big East get an automatic bid in the first place?

If the old SWC DIDN'T disband and join with the Big 8, would the Big East have been considered a Big 6? Just something to think about I guess.
Dec 5, 2010 12:33am
M

Manhattan Buckeye

Senior Member

7,566 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:36 AM
jordo212000;588054 wrote:Seems like a lateral move at this point to me. Big East basketball trumps ACC basketball, and with TCU the conference won't be losing their AQ status. They have no reason to leave

The BE needs UConn and Cuse to trump the ACC in basketball...the non-football programs (G'Town, Providence, St. John's, DePaul, etc.) can't bring in the requisite revenue, and the ACC still boasts a pretty attractive basketball slate - UNC, Duke, Murland, GT, Wake...add UConn and Cuse to that mix and that is a powerful basketball conference.
Dec 5, 2010 12:36am
dwccrew's avatar

dwccrew

Not Banned

7,817 posts
Dec 5, 2010 2:40 AM
jordo212000;588025 wrote:The Big East is bad. It makes me a little upset that TCU bailed them out, but I guess I understand. They will get more exposure in other sports than what they would get playing in the Mtn West.

Just think of how good the Mountain West would have been if everybody stayed
How is TCU bailing them out? We don't really know how good TCU is, and I'm willing to wager a large amount of money they get embarassed by Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.
jordo212000;588054 wrote:Seems like a lateral move at this point to me. Big East basketball trumps ACC basketball, and with TCU the conference won't be losing their AQ status. They have no reason to leave

How is the Big East equal to the ACC in basketball? Duke and UNC alone trump anything the BE can offer IMO.
bigkahuna;588059 wrote:I was thinking about this the other day. What made the Big East get an automatic bid in the first place?

If the old SWC DIDN'T disband and join with the Big 8, would the Big East have been considered a Big 6? Just something to think about I guess.

I think the Big East got the auto bid because when the BCS was formed the Big East had Miami (FL), Va Tech and Boston College still. It was more respectable then. Now UConn, a team that was not even FBS a few years ago, is the conference representative in the BCS? Something needs to be changed in the current system.
Dec 5, 2010 2:40am
Tobias Fünke's avatar

Tobias Fünke

formerly "sjmvsfscs08"

2,387 posts
Dec 5, 2010 3:17 AM
dwccrew;588116 wrote:How is TCU bailing them out? We don't really know how good TCU is, and I'm willing to wager a large amount of money they get embarassed by Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.



Wisconsin has the potential to be in for a rude awakening. Don't get me wrong I think they'll pound the living shit out of TCU's defensive interior, but Wisconsin's big win of the season is? Oh that's right, beating an Ohio State team that also hasn't been anyone. The true of the matter is we don't know how good anyone in the Big Ten is (and to a larger extent the country if you want to get crazy with that train of thought haha).

I guess I'm just saying I wouldn't wager "a large amount of money" on fickle collegiate players, especially a team that really hasn't been tested away from Madison.
Dec 5, 2010 3:17am
GoPens's avatar

GoPens

Senior Member

2,339 posts
Dec 5, 2010 11:18 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;588031 wrote:"The Big East is bad. It makes me a little upset that TCU bailed them out, but I guess I understand. "

We'll see how long this bail-out lasts...my spidey sense tells me the football teams that have strong basketball programs (i.e. 'Cuse and UConn) might be negotiating with the ACC. This could be a short-term band-aid.

Don't forget the current #3 basketball team in the country--Pitt. From what I hear they would leave the Big East in a heartbeat and were dying for that Big 10 invite although Dixon says he'd prefer to stay in the Big East.
Dec 5, 2010 11:18am
gerb131's avatar

gerb131

Senior Member

9,932 posts
Dec 5, 2010 11:21 AM
GoPens;588274 wrote:Don't forget the current #3 basketball team in the country--Pitt. From what I hear they would leave the Big East in a heartbeat and were dying for that Big 10 invite.

That would be sweet.
Give UConn some credit but no way in hades they stand a chance whomever they play. Game against USF was a snoooozzzzeeeerrrr
Dec 5, 2010 11:21am
D

dat dude

Senior Member

1,564 posts
Dec 5, 2010 11:22 AM
Tobias Fünke;588129 wrote:

Wisconsin has the potential to be in for a rude awakening. Don't get me wrong I think they'll pound the living shit out of TCU's defensive interior, but Wisconsin's big win of the season is? Oh that's right, beating an Ohio State team that also hasn't been anyone. The true of the matter is we don't know how good anyone in the Big Ten is (and to a larger extent the country if you want to get crazy with that train of thought haha).

I guess I'm just saying I wouldn't wager "a large amount of money" on fickle collegiate players, especially a team that really hasn't been tested away from Madison.

Are you really questioning whether Wisconsin has a "big win?" If they don't, then what team does?
Dec 5, 2010 11:22am
77Legend's avatar

77Legend

Senior Member

615 posts
Dec 5, 2010 11:29 AM
I think there should be a clause for the automatic bid conferences stating that if the conference winner has more than 2 losses, they do not qualify for a BCS bowl bid. This will make every game that much more important in my opinion. 3 losses or more just looks bad as far as going to the major bowl games.
Dec 5, 2010 11:29am
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Dec 5, 2010 11:34 AM
Tobias Fünke;588129 wrote:but Wisconsin's big win of the season is? Oh that's right, beating an Ohio State team that also hasn't been anyone
.

So the defending Rose Bowl champs who lost basically 3 starters and started the season ranked #2 and are still in the top 10 is no one?

Jesus dude, take off the haterade blinders.
Dec 5, 2010 11:34am
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Dec 5, 2010 11:35 AM
77Legend;588286 wrote:I think there should be a clause for the automatic bid conferences stating that if the conference winner has more than 2 losses, they do not qualify for a BCS bowl bid. This will make every game that much more important in my opinion. 3 losses or more just looks bad as far as going to the major bowl games.

Add onto that their (Big Least) conference rep last year was undefeated and performed like a 4 loss team.
Dec 5, 2010 11:35am
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:06 PM
lhslep134;588293 wrote:So the defending Rose Bowl champs who lost basically 3 starters and started the season ranked #2 and are still in the top 10 is no one?

Jesus dude, take off the haterade blinders.

Forgive him. He's a Notre Dame fan, he doesn't even know what a big win feels like.
Dec 5, 2010 12:06pm
wes_mantooth's avatar

wes_mantooth

Tomfoolery & shenanigans

17,977 posts
Dec 5, 2010 12:31 PM
no, I think the SEC should get all the bids.
Dec 5, 2010 12:31pm
goosebumps's avatar

goosebumps

Senior Member

1,058 posts
Dec 5, 2010 1:37 PM
lhslep134;588295 wrote:Add onto that their (Big Least) conference rep last year was undefeated and performed like a 4 loss team.

I forgot that no one from the Big Ten ever performed badly in a BCS game...
Dec 5, 2010 1:37pm