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Dec 2, 2010 11:30 PM
elbuckeye28;585917 wrote:That may be true but as a society, we forget things really quickly. Nobody cares to remember how horrible of a teammate Kobe was when he was asked to be traded. Winning makes people forget. Maybe not Cleveland, but the rest of the country will easily forget if he wins.

Have to disagree on that one. Shit, tonight as part of the telecast we saw Red right 88, the drive, the fumble, Jose fuckin' Mesa and all the rest of it...LeBron is part of that now. The media brings it up every fucking time there's an important Cleveland sporting event. They will not let it go thus it WILL be his enduring legacy, you can count on it
Dec 2, 2010 11:30pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:30 PM
elbuckeye28;585921 wrote:No you are right, they aren't. But if the Lakers beat the Pistons a few years back, Karl Malone does not get put into their category because of a ring.

You just proved everyone's point.

Rings take you to another level. It doesn't matter how you got them.

If Bron wins a ring; he will go from just another great player to that next level of greatness.
Dec 2, 2010 11:30pm
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elbuckeye28

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Dec 2, 2010 11:32 PM
Laley23;585922 wrote:Eh, Im not a Cavs fan so I never really followed them. I know about LeBron because he is LeBron. I followed the Cavs in general cause Im in Toledo so I know about everything. But I never got into their team chemistry or anything like that.

I was on Noahs side with the dancing though...

Yeah understandable. I just find it ironic how the same actions that made Lebron so loved then, are what make him hated now. No matter what he does, he will be criticized. He says nice things and people say he's being fake. He says things that are not so nice, and that is Lebron showing his true colors.
Dec 2, 2010 11:32pm
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elbuckeye28

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Dec 2, 2010 11:33 PM
wildcats20;585924 wrote:You just proved everyone's point.

Rings take you to another level. It doesn't matter how you got them.

If Bron wins a ring; he will go from just another great player to that next level of greatness.

I just said that if Karl Malone wins a ring, he does not get put into their category. I just said the absolute opposite of your point, but yet I proved your point?
Dec 2, 2010 11:33pm
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elbuckeye28

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Dec 2, 2010 11:34 PM
ytownfootball;585923 wrote:Have to disagree on that one. Shit, tonight as part of the telecast we saw Red right 88, the drive, the fumble, Jose fuckin' Mesa and all the rest of it...LeBron is part of that now. The media brings it up every fucking time there's an important Cleveland sporting event. They will not let it go thus it WILL be his enduring legacy, you can count on it

Yeah. Cleveland will never forget, but the national media will.
Dec 2, 2010 11:34pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:34 PM
elbuckeye28;585928 wrote:I just said that if Karl Malone wins a ring, he does not get put into their category. I just said the absolute opposite of your point, but yet I proved your point?

I thought it said does get put into that category...I misread.


Either way, if The Mailman wins a ring with that Lakers team he moves to the upper echelon of great players.
Dec 2, 2010 11:34pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:35 PM
elbuckeye28;585929 wrote:Yeah. Cleveland will never forget, but the national media will.

did you even read my post? I'm guessing no.
Dec 2, 2010 11:35pm
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elbuckeye28

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Dec 2, 2010 11:40 PM
wildcats20;585930 wrote:I thought it said does get put into that category...I misread.


Either way, if The Mailman wins a ring with that Lakers team he moves to the upper echelon of great players.
See that does not make a whole lot of sense to me. Yes rings should be taken into consideration, and obviously Kobe and Jordan having all the rings they have adds to their legacy, but championship teams need a lot of luck that has nothing to do with a particular player, that one ring really does not make that player any better or worse.
Dec 2, 2010 11:40pm
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elbuckeye28

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Dec 2, 2010 11:41 PM
ytownfootball;585932 wrote:did you even read my post? I'm guessing no.

No I'm not saying that the media won't forget the decision, but they have been hard on Lebron thus far. If he wins a championship, they will be back on his bandwagon. So I agree with what your saying, I just think that, other than when Lebron plays Cleveland, the negative perception will be gone.
Dec 2, 2010 11:41pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:44 PM
Thank god I am a Pittsburgh guy............How in the hell can you guys deal with that piece of chit..........Oh my goodness.......that ass put 38 up on you guys in 3 quarters threw the chawk up in the air and laughed his butt off the whole time..........That team of yours did more hugging of thejerk than playing D ......See my Steelers and Penguins and even Pirates have more heart than that and we can beat up on people ...We just get fined at every turn ......That display just sickened me even further ........Not that #$%^&*( team is going on a tear........Thought your boys would give that team a better fight ...Atleast a very hard foul on the KING...maybe a couple of techs ..something....Pro basketball players dont care about fans most of them anyway just keep giving them money and supporting them ......You wont see that chit out of Hockey players ....Nope....Most NBA players are narsasists.....You guys gave your soul to a piece of crap and he came back with his classmates and again pizzed all over you ...I am sick for the town of Cleveland and I am a Pittsburgh guy ...I am from Ohio though so I dont like my state being disrespected and he pissed all over this place........ Go to the city of Akron ..those guys from his neighborhood love him I promise you that.....That chant didnt phase him he knew it wernt true......You guys got peed on again just sickening....GET SOME FRIGGING SPORTS FIGURES WITH SOME HEART CLEVELAND ..Your making Ohio look bad!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 2, 2010 11:44pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:53 PM
lol this shit is funny
Dec 2, 2010 11:53pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:54 PM
Thinthickbigred;585943 wrote:Thank god I am a Pittsburgh guy............How in the hell can you guys deal with that piece of chit..........Oh my goodness.......that ass put 38 up on you guys in 3 quarters threw the chawk up in the air and laughed his butt off the whole time..........That team of yours did more hugging of thejerk than playing D ......See my Steelers and Penguins and even Pirates have more heart than that and we can beat up on people ...We just get fined at every turn ......That display just sickened me even further ........Not that #$%^&*( team is going on a tear........Thought your boys would give that team a better fight ...Atleast a very hard foul on the KING...maybe a couple of techs ..something....Pro basketball players dont care about fans most of them anyway just keep giving them money and supporting them ......You wont see that chit out of Hockey players ....Nope....Most NBA players are narsasists.....You guys gave your soul to a piece of crap and he came back with his classmates and again pizzed all over you ...I am sick for the town of Cleveland and I am a Pittsburgh guy ...I am from Ohio though so I dont like my state being disrespected and he pissed all over this place........ Go to the city of Akron ..those guys from his neighborhood love him I promise you that.....That chant didnt phase him he knew it wernt true......You guys got peed on again just sickening....GET SOME FRIGGING SPORTS FIGURES WITH SOME HEART CLEVELAND ..Your making Ohio look bad!!!!!!!!!!!

How many did you have tonight?
Dec 2, 2010 11:54pm
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Dec 3, 2010 12:08 AM
LOL, he mentioned the Pirates.

My god.

Either way, who cares what LeBron says? He doesn't owe anything to anybody.
Dec 3, 2010 12:08am
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Dec 3, 2010 12:45 AM
^^^true. He's an ass hole and will always be an ass hole especially with Cleveland fans.
Dec 3, 2010 12:45am
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Dec 3, 2010 7:53 AM
elbuckeye28;585914 wrote:Karl Malone, John Stockton, Pistol Pete, Reggie etc,

None of those players are top 10 all time.
Dec 3, 2010 7:53am
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Dec 3, 2010 8:22 AM
It's a stretch to call someone "great" when they have to go to someone elses team so that dont have to be the man on thier own team, I understand he wants a ring but it seems as he doesn't want to work very hard for it or can't handle the pressure of being the man on a team....so the word great is a stretch

And no I'm not a "butthurt" Cleveland fan I can't stand Lebron or Cleveland and never could, they can both get fucked. The only thing maybe he should apologize for is to his ex teammates and the Cavs organization for making them find out his plans the same time as the dirty hobo that happen to be walking by tv when he made his decision. He doesn't owe the fans shit.
Dec 3, 2010 8:22am
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Dec 3, 2010 8:29 AM
Thinthickbigred;585943 wrote:Thank god I am a Pittsburgh guy............How in the hell can you guys deal with that piece of chit..........Oh my goodness.......that ass put 38 up on you guys in 3 quarters threw the chawk up in the air and laughed his butt off the whole time..........That team of yours did more hugging of thejerk than playing D ......See my Steelers and Penguins and even Pirates have more heart than that and we can beat up on people ...We just get fined at every turn ......That display just sickened me even further ........Not that #$%^&*( team is going on a tear........Thought your boys would give that team a better fight ...Atleast a very hard foul on the KING...maybe a couple of techs ..something....Pro basketball players dont care about fans most of them anyway just keep giving them money and supporting them ......You wont see that chit out of Hockey players ....Nope....Most NBA players are narsasists.....You guys gave your soul to a piece of crap and he came back with his classmates and again pizzed all over you ...I am sick for the town of Cleveland and I am a Pittsburgh guy ...I am from Ohio though so I dont like my state being disrespected and he pissed all over this place........ Go to the city of Akron ..those guys from his neighborhood love him I promise you that.....That chant didnt phase him he knew it wernt true......You guys got peed on again just sickening....GET SOME FRIGGING SPORTS FIGURES WITH SOME HEART CLEVELAND ..Your making Ohio look bad!!!!!!!!!!!

Your from Ohio and your a fan of Pittsburg sports... You should have to apologize to the state of Ohio
Dec 3, 2010 8:29am
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Dec 3, 2010 8:51 AM
Heelz;586104 wrote:It's a stretch to call someone "great" when they have to go to someone elses team so that dont have to be the man on thier own team, I understand he wants a ring but it seems as he doesn't want to work very hard for it or can't handle the pressure of being the man on a team....so the word great is a stretch

And no I'm not a "butthurt" Cleveland fan I can't stand Lebron or Cleveland and never could, they can both get fucked. The only thing maybe he should apologize for is to his ex teammates and the Cavs organization for making them find out his plans the same time as the dirty hobo that happen to be walking by tv when he made his decision. He doesn't owe the fans shit.

It's not a stretch to call Lebron great at all. In fact there is no doubt that he is great, and there is a good chance he'll go down as one of the greatest. Now you can question a lot of things about him since the decision, but there is no(logical) debate that he is great.
Dec 3, 2010 8:51am
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Dec 3, 2010 8:55 AM
SMH elbuckeye. I thought I knew you? (It was only like 7 years ago or something, right?)

;)




PS....this sounds really bad, lol. It has nothing to do with that, though.
Dec 3, 2010 8:55am
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Dec 3, 2010 8:57 AM
Heelz;586106 wrote:Your from Ohio and your a fan of Pittsburg sports...

SMH...
Dec 3, 2010 8:57am
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elbuckeye28

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Dec 3, 2010 9:03 AM
Fab4Runner;586120 wrote:SMH elbuckeye. I thought I knew you? (It was only like 7 years ago or something, right?)

;)

Haha yeah something like that, maybe even a bit longer. Either way, it has been a long time. Just thinking about it, it's been a while since I have seen many of our mutual friends.
Dec 3, 2010 9:03am
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Dec 3, 2010 9:46 AM
Commander of Awesome;586122 wrote:SMH...

Whats the SMH all about? the three little dots don't explain shit.
Dec 3, 2010 9:46am
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Dec 3, 2010 9:56 AM
Heelz;586162 wrote:Whats the SMH all about? the three little dots don't explain shit.
Shaking my head.

Its the new cool thing to say now online. Just like "fail' and "pwned." Oh yeah and don't forget "just sayin" after you just said something.
Dec 3, 2010 9:56am
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Dec 3, 2010 9:58 AM
Just clicking works well. However SMH illustrates being from Ohio and rooting for shittsburgh. Its just wrong.
Dec 3, 2010 9:58am
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Thinthickbigred

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Dec 3, 2010 10:54 AM
Heelz;586106 wrote:Your from Ohio and your a fan of Pittsburg sports... You should have to apologize to the state of Ohio

I am 30 minutes from Pittsburgh ... I have never even been to Cleveland......I have all Pittsburgh channels ..I have worked in the Burgh ..I live in Steubenville we are in the Pittsburgh market....We are atleast 60% Steeler fans here and about 20% Browns fans..I am just trying to say man you guys got some weak sports figures in that city and I actually feel sorry for ou guys ...I am angry for you guys ...... NBA is a joke ..Those players just dont give a crap about the fans in general ..very sad very sad ... Penguins and hockey players dont act the way your cavs did last night .....They should have come at the KING hard all the way ..fouled the heck out of him atleast ..instead of all the hugs and laughs ..just disgusting ...I feel really bad for them fans they got insult to injury ...That team of yours ..well atleast they get paid and now they can go vacation with the KING down in Miami ...just sick ......and yes even my Pirates got more heart than that ........What I am telling you Cleveland people is I hate Cleveland because I am a Steeler guy but I feel terrible for you because you got bums like that representing your city ...get a grip ....even your enemies are trying to be on your side and your team lays down like that .....just sad:(
Dec 3, 2010 10:54am