Bowl Games
(games started from beginning to end)

Vince Young
2005 Rose Bowl (38-37 win over Michigan)
16-28 passing for 180, 1 TD, 1 INT, 21 rushes for 200, 4 TDs
2006 Rose Bowl (41-38 win over USC)
30-40 passing for 267, 19 rushes for 200, 3 TDs

Matt Leinart
2004 Rose Bowl (28-14 win over Michigan)
23-34 passing for 327, 3 TDs
2005 Orange Bowl (55-19 win over Oklahoma)
18-35 passing for 332, 5 TDs
2006 Rose Bowl (41-38 loss to Texas)
29-40 passing for 365, 1 TD, 1 INT

Colt McCoy
2006 Alamo Bowl (26-24 win over Iowa)
26-40 passing for 308, 2 TDs
2007 Holiday Bowl (52-34 win over Arizona State)
21-31 passing for 174, 1 TD, 16 rushes for 63, 1 TD
2009 Fiesta Bowl (24-21 win over Ohio State)
41-58 passing for 414, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 1 rushing TD

Tim Tebow
2008 Capital One Bowl (41-35 loss to Michigan)
17-33 passing for 154, 3 TDs, 16 rushes for 57, 1 TD
2009 BCS Championship Game (24-14 win over Oklahoma)
18-30 passing for 231, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 22 rushes for 109


Tim Tebow has made a career of piling up statistics, particularly short TD runs, against inferior opponents. In the big games, however, he has proven that he is not even the top quarterback of the decade much less of all time.


Career win percentage

1. Ken Dorsey, 38-2 (.950)
2. Matt Leinart, 37-2 (.949)
3. Vince Young, 30-2 (.938)
4. Tim Tebow, 34-5 (.872)
5. Colt McCoy, 44-7 (.863)

Runs greater than 30yards

Vince Young

80 - Oklahoma State 2005
65 - Nebraska 2003
64 - Baylor 2003
60 - Tulane 2003
60 - Michigan 2004
59 - Oklahoma 2003
51 - Rice 2005
47 - Baylor 2004
45 - Oklahoma State 2005
45 - Oklahoma State 2005
45 - USC 2005
42 - Oklahoma State 2004
36 - Missouri 2005
34 - Missouri 2005
33 - North Texas 2004
33 - Missouri 2005
32 - Ohio State 2005


Tim Tebow

55 - Florida International 2009
47 - Florida State 2009

Looking at all of Tebow's rushing TD's and he has 18 1-yard TD runs, 9 2-yard TD runs, and 6 3-yard TD runs. That means well over 1/2 of his TD runs were from 3 yards or less and almost 1/3 were 1 yard runs. As where most QB's would hand to a running back in these situations, Tebow calls his own #. This has allowed him to break several SEC records held by great running backs.
It is also probably the reason he won a Heisman Trophy when he went 9-4 the year after his team had won a National Championship with a different starting quarterback.



I love how when people bring up why Tebow is the "greatest ever" the first thing they mention is his 2 NCs and 1 Heisman.

Going into the Rose Bowl against Texas, didn't Matt Leinart also have 2 NCs and a Heisman? And unlike Tebow, Leinart actually started for both NC teams. In fact, Leinart never had a year where he didn't either play for or win the NC!



BCS Bowl Game records that Vince Young holds:

Most Total Yards
467-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (267 pass, 200 rush)

Most Total Yards, Championship Game
467-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (267 pass, 200 rush)

Most Touchdowns Responsible For (TDs scored and passed for)
5-Vince Young, Texas vs. Michigan, Rose, Jan. 1, 2005 (4 rush, 1 pass)

Most Rushing Yards, Championship Game
200-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 attempts)

Most Rushing Yards By A Quarterback
200-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 attempts)

Most Rushing Yards By A Quarterback, Championship Game
200-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 attempts)

Most Rushing Yards Per Attempt (min. 15 attempts)
10.53-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 for 200)

Most Rushing Yards Per Attempt, Championship Game (min. 15 attempts)
10.53-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 for 200)

Most Rushing Touchdowns
4-Vince Young, Texas vs. Michigan, Rose, Jan. 1, 2005

Most Rushing Touchdowns, Championship Game
3-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006

Most Pass Completions, Championship Game
30-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (40 attempts)

Most Passes Without An Interception, Championship Game
40-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006

Highest Completion Percentage, Championship Game (min. 20 attempts)
.750-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006 (30 of 40)

SCORING
Most Points Scored
24-Vince Young, Texas vs. Michigan, Rose, Jan. 1, 2005 (4 TDs)

Most Points Scored, Championship Game
20-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (3 TDs, 1 2-pt. conversion)

For comparison, here are the BCS Bowl Game records Here are the ones Tim Tebow holds:










But to the passionately uninfomed, those stats probably won't even make an impression because they will continue to believe what they want to believe.

They'll imagine that Florida actually went undefeated last year.

They'll imagine that Florida had a good season in 2007.

They'll imagine that Tim Tebow was the starter in 2006.

They'll believe Tebow is a god and they won't be bothered with trivial details, like... reality.

All that research and typing for what?

Pretty interesting if you truly read it.

I agree. Vince Young was the best college QB I'll ever see.

thedynasty1998 wrote: All that research and typing for what?

Everyone says that Tim is the best ever when the stats prove otherwise

Great... you wanna slob on his knob now too?

Buy a plane ticket to Gainesville. I hear he's leaving for an awards ceremony trip here shortly...

darbypitcher22 wrote: Great... you wanna slob on his knob now too?

Buy a plane ticket to Gainesville. I hear he's leaving for an awards ceremony trip here shortly...

Uhh, he is making fun of Tebow.

darbypitcher22 wrote: Great... you wanna slob on his knob now too?

Buy a plane ticket to Gainesville. I hear he's leaving for an awards ceremony trip here shortly...

hmm must have forgot to read the post

1 National championship game does not make a career. No matter how good or bad it is.

-Troy Smith
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Also, had Carroll let Bush run the 4th down play instead of White, Leinart might have replaced Young for top QB of the decade.

Great post, however, I think you copied and pasted all of this. No way would something so detailed and accurate, would have come from you

LTrain23 wrote: Great post, however, I think you copied and pasted all of this. No way would something so detailed and accurate, would have come from you

Yeah Laker fans aren't capable of producing something like this.

LTrain23 wrote: Great post, however, I think you copied and pasted all of this. No way would something so detailed and accurate, would have come from you

haha its a little harder to put up a statistical argument against Lebron

Don't be dissing the son of God!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tim Tebow will be exposed in the NFL.

Fuck Tim Tebow

/end thread

Oh, I'm sure he'll get a chance. Just because of the "dick riding"... However, I don't see him doing anything.

I quit reading when you said M. Leinart had 2 NC's and that he either played for or won a NC every year he played. USC has only won ONE BCS title.
And out of all the top QB's you have listed, how much NFL success have ANY of them had? None, besides this 5 game streak VY is having now.

Not a TEBOW fan either, wow!! I can't wait til someone knocks the SEC of there perch in prestige in Coll. FB.

I'm tired of snow bird reporters looking for a free trip south in the winter to over hype Tebow, again and again.


L.A or Florida is the reporter from NY's wet dream all year. can you say warm weather and bikini's??

cats gone wild wrote: I quit reading when you said M. Leinart had 2 NC's and that he either played for or won a NC every year he played. USC has only won ONE BCS title.
And out of all the top QB's you have listed, how much NFL success have ANY of them had? None, besides this 5 game streak VY is having now.

You are not very bright, are you?

How come you didn't mention Craig Krenzel in that list? He was 26-3 with an .897 winning % and a national champsionship win over Ken Dorsey. Also, he won another BCS bowl.

Society wrote:

cats gone wild wrote: I quit reading when you said M. Leinart had 2 NC's and that he either played for or won a NC every year he played. USC has only won ONE BCS title.
And out of all the top QB's you have listed, how much NFL success have ANY of them had? None, besides this 5 game streak VY is having now.

You are not very bright, are you?

OK....................explain why dont ya

dwccrew wrote: How come you didn't mention Craig Krenzel in that list? He was 26-3 with an .897 winning % and a national champsionship win over Ken Dorsey. Also, he won another BCS bowl.

30 wins or more

cats gone wild wrote: I quit reading when you said M. Leinart had 2 NC's and that he either played for or won a NC every year he played. USC has only won ONE BCS title.
And out of all the top QB's you have listed, how much NFL success have ANY of them had? None, besides this 5 game streak VY is having now.

Maybe one bcs title but he has 2 national championship titles

2quik4u wrote:

cats gone wild wrote: I quit reading when you said M. Leinart had 2 NC's and that he either played for or won a NC every year he played. USC has only won ONE BCS title.
And out of all the top QB's you have listed, how much NFL success have ANY of them had? None, besides this 5 game streak VY is having now.

Maybe one bcs title but he has 2 national championship titles

If you dont win it on the field, it isnt a championship. I dont care what the poll said, they didnt play in the title game.

cats gone wild wrote:

2quik4u wrote:

cats gone wild wrote: I quit reading when you said M. Leinart had 2 NC's and that he either played for or won a NC every year he played. USC has only won ONE BCS title.
And out of all the top QB's you have listed, how much NFL success have ANY of them had? None, besides this 5 game streak VY is having now.

Maybe one bcs title but he has 2 national championship titles

If you dont win it on the field, it isnt a championship. I dont care what the poll said, they didnt play in the title game.

Ok and thats your opinion