Is NASA About to Announce the Discovery of Extraterrestrial Life?

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gorocks99

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Dec 2, 2010 4:21 PM
How 'bout that NASA announcement, eh?
Dec 2, 2010 4:21pm
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Dec 2, 2010 4:25 PM
~U~;584933 wrote:Last time I checked I never seen the bible or koran talk about Mars or any life on another planet but this one. Don't worry though, I am sure to make you sleep better at night your 'rulers' will re-write the bible/koran like it has been done so many times before.


Wow. Ignorant. I'm not even [actively] religious, and your logic is more moronic than a 2nd grader. Your argument is "just because the Bible or Quaran doesn't reference live on another planet disproves religion if there is in fact life elsewhere? DUMB!
Dec 2, 2010 4:25pm
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Dec 2, 2010 4:26 PM
O-Trap;584999 wrote:I was going for deductive fallacy. His statement works off the basic syllogism model (2 premises and 1 conclusion). If we were to find alien life, the two premises would be true, but they don't correlate in such a way to make the conclusion true.

Premise 1: The Bible does not mention alien life. (true)
Premise 2: Alien life does exist. (true)
Conclusion: The assertions based on the Bible are false. (not inherently true)

To put it in more extreme terms (that are nonsensical on purpose):

Premise 1: A biology textbook does not mention grilled cheese sandwiches. (true)
Premise 2: Grilled cheese sandwiches do exist. (true)
Conclusion: The assertions based on the info in this textbook are false. (not inherently true)

Bingo. We have a winner.
Dec 2, 2010 4:26pm
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Dec 2, 2010 4:35 PM
SnotBubbles;585143 wrote:That would be great for the world (sarcasm). That's one of the most ignorant comments I've ever read on here. I don't know what I believe, but that comment still irritates the shit out of me. The Christian religion is what this country was founded on, it's teachings are what we base law on. Let's disprove something that teaches morals and values and scares people out of doing harmful things. You're right, I would love to see science induced panic throughout the world...murders, thefts, rapes...and it would all happen because man no longer has to fear God's ultimate wrath. Even if there is no God, the belief in him is one of the good qualities left in this world.

As for your comment, you better hope that you're right and God isn't real. If he is, you're fucked. I'm not going to say I believe myself, but I'm certainly not going to mock it/Him.

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Yeah if god exists, i'll go to the firery pits of hell and burn for eternity lol
Dec 2, 2010 4:35pm
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Dec 2, 2010 7:23 PM
chicago510;585180 wrote:May not seem like much, but as a biologist this is an incredible revelation. Adenosine Triphosphate is the energy currency for all life as we know it, plus phosphorous is an essential component of DNA and RNA, and the fact that an organism can survive without phosphorous is mindblowing.
It is interesting, but the article mentioned this particular bacteria possesses DNA, which I thought to be even more interesting. Doesn't the presence of DNA presume it is related to other bacteria, and has experienced a genetic mutation that all it to run on arsenic instead?

I'm no xenobiologist, but I am guessing that scientists looking for life elsewhere in the universe, that has self-generated on its own, apart from earth-based life, by who knows what mechanism, would expect such ET life to NOT have DNA - woudn't they?
Dec 2, 2010 7:23pm
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Dec 2, 2010 8:40 PM
Some of this is overhead my head, but the definition of life has been evolving for a number of years since scientists began discovering and studying these extremophiles.
Dec 2, 2010 8:40pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:36 PM
gut;585580 wrote:Some of this is overhead my head, but the definition of life has been evolving for a number of years since scientists began discovering and studying these extremophiles.

Yes but we have never discovered an organism that can survive without Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorous and Sulfur.
Dec 2, 2010 11:36pm
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Dec 3, 2010 12:19 AM
chicago510;585933 wrote:Yes but we have never discovered an organism that can survive without Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorous and Sulfur.

Technically, neither have we discovered an "organism" (something that at all fits the definition of "life") that we can see has progressed from non-organic matter. ;)
Dec 3, 2010 12:19am