NASA is bringing together a geologist, an oceanographer, a biologist, and an ecologist for a press conference on Thursday to talk about an astrobiology discovery that “will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life.”

http://www.disinfo.com/2010/11/is-nasa-about-to-announce-the-discovery-of-extraterrestrial-life/

If anything it is either:
1. The discovery of an earth "like" planet with the possibility of water, but we are unsure.
2. The discovery of ancient microbes somewhere in the solar system.
3. Nothing but scientists talking about a method to find a life.

joebaseball;582744 wrote:NASA is bringing together a geologist, an oceanographer, a biologist, and an ecologist for a press conference on Thursday to talk about an astrobiology discovery that “will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life.”

http://www.disinfo.com/2010/11/is-nasa-about-to-announce-the-discovery-of-extraterrestrial-life/

Two guys in black suits and sunglasses were spotted outside the offices of all involved.

It'd be great to find extraterrestrial life, but much of what we're searching for is, I believe, a pipedream.

Extraterrestrial life has already been found. It's located on this site.....note: ccrunner609 and his comments.

ccrunner609;582785 wrote:whatever it is, its 600 billion miles away and we arent getting there so who gives a fuck.

+1. NASA seems like a waste to me.

One thing I have always believed about the whole ET situation is the Govt, no matter what is really out there, will not tell the world. The world's govt as a whole, because the world is basically functioning on religion, will keep it from us because people who believe in god, allah, buddah, etc.....will not be able to handle it and the world will go nuts!!

I dunno. I try to devote my life to serving God, and life elsewhere really wouldn't bother me.

However, I suppose I do see your point, as it WOULD rock the worldviews of many.

Seriously, there has to be more fools "out there" and not just the ones here.

O-Trap;582812 wrote:I dunno. I try to devote my life to serving God, and life elsewhere really wouldn't bother me.

Shouldn't you be against someone trying to prove God wrong?

dlazz;582907 wrote:Shouldn't you be against someone trying to prove God wrong?

I don't see extraterrestrial life as proving anything but ... well ... that there would be extraterrestrial life. Even sentient life (which, to be fair, is a FAR stretch from where we are currently).

I don't see any extraterrestrial life being found. Sometimes I think we are wasting too much time and resources in space travel/science.

OSH;583028 wrote:I don't see any extraterrestrial life being found. Sometimes I think we are wasting too much time and resources in space travel/science.

Nonsense. Perhaps a bit much on the search for other life but not on space travel and science. We aren't doing enough in that regard. Space is logically part of our future. We should have a small station on the moon by now at least.

Eventually we will have to either leave this rock we call earth and find somewhere new.......or just die in the ash that will consume us. It wont be in my lifetime, or hell, 20 generations lifetimes, but eventually, we are going to have that choice at our hands. So Im going to reckon NASA will be working on that on a pretty 24/7 basis until then.

Look at it like this, 25 years ago, would you think that almost everyone would own a cell phone, or the internet would make communication between masses of people easier?

The answer is NO...progress is the ultimate "NEVER SAY NEVER" stage!

ccrunner609;582785 wrote:whatever it is, its 600 billion miles away and we arent getting there so who gives a fuck.

You're an idiot. That mindset is one a gym teacher would have and not the men who have gone on to discover and invent things that have altered the history of man.

iclfan2;582807 wrote:+1. NASA seems like a waste to me.

I once read a report that read that for every dollar the government has put into NASA it has received seven back in taxes off of the economic creations from NASA discoveries. Yeah, a big fucking waste.

Fab1b;582809 wrote:One thing I have always believed about the whole ET situation is the Govt, no matter what is really out there, will not tell the world. The world's govt as a whole, because the world is basically functioning on religion, will keep it from us because people who believe in god, allah, buddah, etc.....will not be able to handle it and the world will go nuts!!

Europe and liberal America are surely not run on religion anymore, for better or worse. Plus the Catholic church (you know, the largest organized religion in the world...) has already said extraterrestrial life is definitely possible and doesn't disprove God one bit. The discovery of Native Americans holds the same weight as discovering Martians since Jesus didn't bring up either.

I'm a relatively "religious" person who thinks God is a lot bigger than all of us. He created the universe. Why wouldn't we believe He has the capability or desire to put "life" anywhere He wants? It certainly wouldn't "rock my world" if life originating outside of Earth is discovered.

What amazes me is the amount of time and money being spent to find this "extraterrestrial" life.

If we find this life and we corroborate that it is indeed life spawned outside of Earth, then what? What does this prove? What value does it bring to the table? Is the real (or insidious) purpose to disprove the existence of God and/or prove that Darwin was right?

If so it will hardly prove to me that life on Earth was caused by a chance lightning flash in the primordial goo. Instead it will only serve to demonstrate God's awesomeness that He sees fit to deposit life as we know it wherever He chooses.

But I'm with others on here that we should indeed continue our exploration of space for economic as well as scientific reasons. If in that quest we incidentally discover extraterrestrial life in the process so much the better.

Let's spend the space exploration money to improve the quality of life on this planet first before we waste resources looking for it elsewhere.

I don't know....What else are these people going to do if not searching for extraterrestial life? Like said, doesn't change my belief in God one bit - I don't know who ever made the claim that God couldn't have created life elsewhere in the universe. For all we know, after Adam and Eve screwed up he went and started over somewhere.

I'd also agree with the poster who said a lot of money/wealth/jobs have been indirectly created as a result of NASA. Same goes for the military.

I thought Ty Webb was taking a week off? How are they going to find him?

Shane Falco;583058 wrote:I thought Ty Webb was taking a week off? How are they going to find him?

The two things could be related. Maybe they are going to show him at the press conference as proof that less intelligent life exists.

dlazz;582907 wrote:Shouldn't you be against someone trying to prove God wrong?

Also, aren't scientists supposed to be letting the facts speak for themselves? I don't believe a good scientist goes into anything "trying" to prove something, as that would be a way of trying to force a particular conclusion, yes? Isn't that the very thing that many Christian scientists are accused of doing? Going into something with their mind made up as to what it will prove, and then trying to make the data fit that?

I'm betting on the announcement being similar to the "discovery" of evidence of ET life by the Mars rovers a few years back - actually, the rovers detected a chemical substance that is found when bacteria poops, or something like that - but which also occurs naturally on Earth separate from any life forms. Typically, the press exaggerates the find, and the public believes the headline instead of the actual story.

Does extraterrestrial life exist elsewhere, other than Earth? Depends on how you define "life" and "elsewhere". From a Christian/biblical standpoint, God, angels, and demons would qualify, which means the answer is yes, although usually in a different dimension than our physical one.

What about "natural" life forms, separate from the ones in the previous paragraph? Like Otrap, I don't discount the possibility. The Bible doesn't give any clear guidance that I can think of. I recall Billy Graham preaching on the subject, maybe 40 years ago, and he said he didn't know, but if there were other physical, sentient life forms on other planets, then they would have been created by God, the same as us, and would be under the same jurisdiction and responsibility as us to obey Him. That does invite a deep discussion about the sin nature of humans, and whether our presence pollute a world which had not experienced an Edenic "fall" ......

I tend to agree GO4alOngB0mB's first sentence - particularly the "die in ashes during the attempt" part. Again, from a Christian perspective, I don't think we will have enough time to develop the technology needed for human interstellar travel before God orders an angel to blow the trumpet and start to wrap things up. That doesn't mean we should quit studying or exploring, though. We are designed to search, inquire, and learn. And, like the one poster said, the technologies and products developed by NASA in the last 50 years have benefited us as a society - we may just not be aware of it.

Arthur C. Clark, from "Childhood's End": "The planets you may one day hope to possess. But the stars are not for man."

Al Bundy;583087 wrote:The two things could be related. Maybe they are going to show him at the press conference as proof that less intelligent life exists.

Bringing the lulz!!! Bravo!!!

Tobias Fünke;583045 wrote:You're an idiot. That mindset is one a gym teacher would have and not the men who have gone on to discover and invent things that have altered the history of man.



I once read a report that read that for every dollar the government has put into NASA it has received seven back in taxes off of the economic creations from NASA discoveries. Yeah, a big fucking waste.



Europe and liberal America are surely not run on religion anymore, for better or worse. Plus the Catholic church (you know, the largest organized religion in the world...) has already said extraterrestrial life is definitely possible and doesn't disprove God one bit. The discovery of Native Americans holds the same weight as discovering Martians since Jesus didn't bring up either.

If America isn't still run on the basis of religion, why the hell does "Faith" become such a large part of campaining? Actually you might be right though, now that I think of it. Those that proclaim their religious beliefs from a pedestal are usually hiding behind it!

Tobias Fünke;583045 wrote:You're an idiot. That mindset is one a gym teacher would have and not the men who have gone on to discover and invent things that have altered the history of man.



I once read a report that read that for every dollar the government has put into NASA it has received seven back in taxes off of the economic creations from NASA discoveries. Yeah, a big fucking waste.



Europe and liberal America are surely not run on religion anymore, for better or worse. Plus the Catholic church (you know, the largest organized religion in the world...) has already said extraterrestrial life is definitely possible and doesn't disprove God one bit. The discovery of Native Americans holds the same weight as discovering Martians since Jesus didn't bring up either.

1) Liberal America is not run by faith, correct. However, among industrialized nations, America is the second most religious. To say that America isn't still run by faith is a stretch.

2) i thought islam dwarfed catholicism.

There is more intelligent life in space then you will find in the political forum on the chatter!