WebFire;581749 wrote:You can tell he has a big ego. He talks mostly about himself, rather than the team. When he stated the reasons he was coming back next year, it was all about him. Before The Game, the camera got a close up of him while stretching. He held up 2 fingers. It's all about him.
centralbucksfan;581776 wrote:Don't totally disagree. But I also know and believe its much tougher to be on top, and stay on top then to "sneak" up. Living up to expectations is one of the more difficult things to do in any sport. There is something to said for keeping your team at the top as consistantly as Tressel had. People take it for granted.
centralbucksfan;581787 wrote:Ya, ok sure.
I think this is probably also very true.thedynasty1998;581852 wrote:I think Pryor has benefited from being coached by Tressel
centralbucksfan;581776 wrote:Don't totally disagree. But I also know and believe its much tougher to be on top, and stay on top then to "sneak" up. Living up to expectations is one of the more difficult things to do in any sport. There is something to said for keeping your team at the top as consistantly as Tressel had. People take it for granted.
Tressel has definitely helped with that. I'm not sure 100% but I thought Pryor wasn't allowed to talk to the media his freshman year? He has had his share of foot in mouth moments with the Vick eye black and "everybody kills people" comment and more recently calling Herbstreit a fake ass Buckeye on twitter, which was deleted after a few media members saw it.thedynasty1998;581852 wrote:I think Pryor has benefited from being coached by Tressel, but when he arrived he was known as a egomaniac. Many of upperclassmen really didn't get along with him. With that said, you would probably expect that from a freshman who comes in and takes the starting job from a senior.
I honestly thought Pryor would have had more problems at this point in his career than he has. And in problems I mean, saying the wrong thing to the media, not getting along with teammates, pouting, etc... But from all accounts, he's been exactly what you want the "face of your franchise" to be.
karen lotz;581945 wrote:I do agree with the staying on top being difficult. The thing that could work against him is he has had the most talented team in the Big Ten going into the season how many years in a row? How many times has he gone through the Big Ten undefeated? This year they started out as a clear #2 team in the country and a lot of people thought they were better than Bama. They aren't expected to lose any game. That might give the media an excuse of sorts to give it to someone like Dantonio. Obviously Tressel should have won a handful of COY awards looking back on it, but on a year to year basis, I can see the argument being made for other coaches as well.
centralbucksfan;581976 wrote:You do realize how difficult it is to go undefeated in any major conference? I mean, OSU loss is currently to a top 5 team on their homefield. Nothing to be ashamed about.
Most talented? Absolutely from a recruiting standpoint. But you as well anyone should know that there is more to it then recruiting. Weis brought in how many highly ranked classes. You still haev to develop those players. Coming out of HS as a great player is one thing. Being great at a major university is a whole other world. And again, Tressel and staff have done so. Maybe better then most as OSU hasn't always had a top 5 recruiting class.
As for preseason rankings...well, not 1 team ranked in preseason top 5 is there anymore. And I believe OSU is the ONLY preseason top 5 team currently ranked in the top 10.
Do I believe Dantonio is deserving? Absolutely. But again, when you have a bullseye on your back from day 1, and consistantly do what Tressel has done, 6 straight 10 win seasons...thats IMO is much more difficult to do then to sneak up and have the occasional great year. As I said, MANY take it for granted and that includes the media as well.
centralbucksfan;581976 wrote:You do realize how difficult it is to go undefeated in any major conference?
yeah? I could be misremembering but it was something along those lines.Pick6;581977 wrote:he said fake, not fake ass lol
OSU is on another level. When you win the conference 6 straight years, I'd call that anothe level. But that doesn't mean, on any given year, a team like Wisky or Iowa aren't going to be good and do what Wisky did this year. And being on another level doesn't mean you are going to just waltz through a BCS conference easily every year. It looks "easy" to us and most common fans. When in reality...its not.karen lotz;581996 wrote:Yes I understand that. But OSU was perceived to be on another level in the Big Ten. Yes I know OSU fans were weary of going to Madison and Iowa City, but the media, who votes on this award might have seen it differently.
Also, you aren't allowed to compare OSU to ND, ytownfootball said so.
DING! Everybody hates on Ohio State....it's just that simple. You should hear some of the smack I hear over here in State College. It would piss me off it it weren't so laughable. I just chuckle and tell them, "Ohio State owns the Big 10." They generally shut the fuck up.Writerbuckeye;581313 wrote:Six titles in a row -- which is a record only matched by Woody Hayes, and he can't get Coach of the Year.
Do these folks understand how incredibly STUPID they look for having never given Tressel this award?
They probably do, but don't care.
karen lotz;582326 wrote:Depends on the system, so yes it would be possible that Pryor would finish 5th on that list. If Pryor were at Michigan and was playing the exact same way, would you still be saying how great he is?
clickclickboom;582399 wrote:How could Tressel get COY when he was supposed to do better than Dantonio and didn't.. yes lets reward a coach who underachieved this season that makes sense. Tressel more than likely finished 3rd this year behind Wisconsin's coach too.. idk his name but i know he better have gotten it before Tressel
Trust me, as a former offensive lineman and tackel myself, I paid close enough attention to him to notice that there wasn't really a wow factor for me that made me think gosh, this guy should be all leaguelhslep134;581741 wrote:You're didn't play close enough attention to Adams this year then.
A lot of Buckeyes fans are still held up on his troubles before this year, and because offensive linemen don't get attention, don't realize how great of a year he really had.
I said before the Iowa game that the Adams/Clayborn matchup was one of the most important, and Adams more than held his own against the future NFLer.
Also, Chekwa is a great corner. Very physical and has good ball skills. Being caught out of position at times happens in a zone, but in man to man coverage he was absolutely terrific.