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Nov 29, 2010 1:49 PM
Arkansas would match up well with OSU. I'd favor OSU more over Auburn than I would Arkansas.



Also, if South Carolina were to win, wouldn't the BCS bid go to the highest-ranked SEC team?


No the SEC Champion normally always goes to the Sugar Bowl.
Unless they are 1 or 2 in the BCS. This is correct. Other than that it has nothing to do with highest BCS ranking.
Nov 29, 2010 1:49pm
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Nov 29, 2010 1:52 PM
If South Carolina beats Auburn, they will be in the Sugar Bowl. And Auburn will still get a BCS bowl which will leave Arkansas out in the cold.
Nov 29, 2010 1:52pm
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Nov 29, 2010 2:13 PM
wildcats20;580753 wrote:If South Carolina beats Auburn, they will be in the Sugar Bowl. And Auburn will still get a BCS bowl which will leave Arkansas out in the cold.
Maybe Arkansas and Michigan State will be paired up in the We Got Screwed Bowl.
Nov 29, 2010 2:13pm
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Nov 29, 2010 2:21 PM
believer;580797 wrote:Maybe Arkansas and Michigan State will be paired up in the We Got Screwed Bowl.
Normally known as the Capital One Bowl :).
Nov 29, 2010 2:21pm
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Nov 30, 2010 11:02 PM
Why would anyone assume Auburn will beat South Carolina. The game was very close last time and its not easy beating a team twice in one year. I may be going out on a limb but I think its going to be

Oregon vs Wisconsin in the NC
OSU vs TCU in the Rose
Stanford vs S. Carolina in the Sugar
Va Tech vs Auburn in the Orange
Nebraska vs UCONN in the Fiesta
Nov 30, 2010 11:02pm
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Dec 1, 2010 12:04 AM
buckeyes_woowee;582916 wrote:Why would anyone assume Auburn will beat South Carolina. The game was very close last time and its not easy beating a team twice in one year. I may be going out on a limb but I think its going to be

Oregon vs Wisconsin in the NC
OSU vs TCU in the Rose
Stanford vs S. Carolina in the Sugar
Va Tech vs Auburn in the Orange
Nebraska vs UCONN in the Fiesta
Sorry there is no way Wisconsin is jumping TCU. If Auburn loses and Oregon wins it will be Oregon vs TCU in the NC.
Dec 1, 2010 12:04am
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Dec 1, 2010 12:16 AM
dlazz;580675 wrote:Arkansas would match up well with OSU. I'd favor OSU more over Auburn than I would Arkansas.

Also, if South Carolina were to win, wouldn't the BCS bid go to the highest-ranked SEC team?

Highest BCS ranking only works for conferences with no tie-breaker (such as the Big 10), I believe.
Dec 1, 2010 12:16am
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Dec 1, 2010 1:26 AM
Iliketurtles;582989 wrote:Sorry there is no way Wisconsin is jumping TCU. If Auburn loses and Oregon wins it will be Oregon vs TCU in the NC.

Yes because there is a precedence for an undefeated non-AQ to make the title game over a 1-loss BCS conference team. Why does everything think TCU is going to get a shot? Wisconsin is next in line, bank it, book it.
Dec 1, 2010 1:26am
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Dec 1, 2010 2:31 AM
Exactly! The human voters will immediately be putting Wisconsin #2 if Auburn loses. Only way TCU gets in is if Oregon loses to Oregon St. making TCU's win over Oregon St. look better.
Dec 1, 2010 2:31am
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Dec 1, 2010 2:37 AM
If Auburn or Oregon loses TCU should be in the championship game
Dec 1, 2010 2:37am
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Dec 1, 2010 4:37 AM
buckeyes_woowee;583035 wrote:Exactly! The human voters will immediately be putting Wisconsin #2 if Auburn loses. Only way TCU gets in is if Oregon loses to Oregon St. making TCU's win over Oregon St. look better.
So Wisconsin would jump TCU and Stanford? If they jump Stanford to prevent a Oregon/Stanford rematch, then why is Stanford ranked ahead of Wisconsin now. I don't understand how in the world an Auburn loss would make Wisconsin look better and TCU worse than a week ago. Just doesn't make sense.

B_wow...Im not saying you don't make sense, I am saying that the possibility of it going down like that(and the possibility is definitely there) does not make sense.
Dec 1, 2010 4:37am
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Dec 1, 2010 10:04 AM
Wisconsin is currently 4th in the human polls. I think if Auburn loses the majority of human voters will put Wisonsin 2, just for the simple fact that Wisconsin is going to be a bigger draw then TCU. Its all about the money.
Dec 1, 2010 10:04am
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Dec 1, 2010 10:05 AM
sportswizuhrd;583048 wrote:So Wisconsin would jump TCU and Stanford? If they jump Stanford to prevent a Oregon/Stanford rematch, then why is Stanford ranked ahead of Wisconsin now. I don't understand how in the world an Auburn loss would make Wisconsin look better and TCU worse than a week ago. Just doesn't make sense.

B_wow...Im not saying you don't make sense, I am saying that the possibility of it going down like that(and the possibility is definitely there) does not make sense.
Again, why do people feel TCU is going to get a chance? It's not going to happen, ask Boise.

And I don't see Stanford, a team that didn't even its own conference being put in over a team that actually won its conference(and really is the best team in the Big Ten).
Dec 1, 2010 10:05am
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Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM
Stanford has no chance to get in.

The polls are going to be alot different if Auburn loses IMO, just because the human voters will have to make a decision. Right now obviously 1 and 2 is set, the rest doesnt really matter. If having to make a decision between TCU and Wisconsin, I think the concensious will be that Wisconsin is the better team.
Dec 1, 2010 10:12am
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Dec 1, 2010 10:40 AM
buckeyes_woowee;583132 wrote:Stanford has no chance to get in.

The polls are going to be alot different if Auburn loses IMO, just because the human voters will have to make a decision. Right now obviously 1 and 2 is set, the rest doesnt really matter. If having to make a decision between TCU and Wisconsin, I think the concensious will be that Wisconsin is the better team.

I don't think there'd be an Oregon-Stanford rematch, but what if Oregon loses. Stanford would then be co-champ of the Pac 10. Stanford has made the biggest gain of any team over the last three weeks point wise. Now that they don't have another game, however, perhaps that trend will come to a halt.

Wisconsin is the team that I've thougth all along had the best shot if Auburn or Oregon loses. However, now that Boise is out of the way and seeing that the gap didn't close as much as I thought it might (Stanford being the team to pull points away from Wisconsin), I think TCU will end up in the title game in that scenario.

By the way, everything I've seen says that Auburn would remain #1 in the computers even with a loss. How far will they drop in the polls to ensure they aren't in the title game if they lose?
Dec 1, 2010 10:40am
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Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM
If Auburn remains number 1 in the computers if they lose that should be the end of the BCS!

I think if Oregon loses then TCU will get in the title game because everyone will hype up their win over Oregon St. If Auburn and Oregon lose then I think its TCU vs Wisconsin.

I can't see a 1 loss Stanford getting in over a 1 loss Oregon so thats why I said Stanford has no shot.
Dec 1, 2010 10:50am
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Dec 1, 2010 2:10 PM
Auburn wouldn't remain #1 in the computers. To say so is ridiculous. The computers would punish them for playing and losing to #19, and it would drag the SEC as a whole down (computers wise).

Human polls, who knows?
Dec 1, 2010 2:10pm
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Dec 1, 2010 5:58 PM
I can't say for sure, just what I've read - I don't know all the exact formulas for each. However, one loss for Auburn isn't going to change the fact that they would be the only team in the country to beat three 10-win teams, another 9-win team, have only three losing teams on their schedule, and the best overall opponents' record of any contender. Playing SC again helps their schedule strength either way.

Just as an example, Stanford has a .84 computer average with a loss and three(?) wins over winning teams. TCU has a .92 after beating four(?) winning teams and at least four teams with 3 wins or less. That is why there won't be much damage (they'll lose some points, but its very possible they remain ahead of TCU and/or Stanford who are currently and handily #3 and #4 in the computers.
Dec 1, 2010 5:58pm
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MontyBrunswick

Dec 1, 2010 8:59 PM
Right, but losing to an erratic South Carolina team that lost to crappy teams will also count as "bad losses" as far as the computers concerned. It'll drag them down.
Dec 1, 2010 8:59pm
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Dec 1, 2010 9:58 PM
dlazz;583974 wrote:Right, but losing to an erratic South Carolina team that lost to crappy teams will also count as "bad losses" as far as the computers concerned. It'll drag them down.

Sure it will hurt them. I don't think it will drop them below TCU. And if they can stay a close #3 in the human polls, it may be enough to keep a spot in the title game.
Dec 1, 2010 9:58pm
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Dec 1, 2010 11:52 PM
Auburn will be #1 in computers regardless of the outcome of the SEC title game, even if they lose by 50.
Dec 1, 2010 11:52pm
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Dec 2, 2010 11:46 AM
Cleveland Buck;579897 wrote:Ohio State has given up 133.2 yard rushing per game against BCS conference teams with winning records, which is what Arkansas is.

On Thursday's? You had so many other adjective add on's to that stat, might as well throw in another.

If you look closer, the 5 teams included in your stat (winning BCS teams) OSU has either been their lowest rushing total or one of their lowest, and ALL of them were well below their average against OSU.

The best comparables to Arkansas is Iowa, Miami, and PSU as ARK averages 150, PSU 142, Iowa 142, and Miami 180.

Lets not act like Arkansas is as good as Wisky or Michigan in the running game.

By those 3 games, PSU, Iowa, and Miami, I'd put Arkansas rushing around 100-110 against OSU, that isn't going to be "huge" to be honest.
Dec 2, 2010 11:46am
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Dec 2, 2010 12:26 PM
I could definitely see TCU getting leapfrogged (no pun intended). It would be a joke, but it is very possible. There is always final week shenanigans
Dec 2, 2010 12:26pm