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Nov 28, 2010 7:53 PM
haha. Laughing at the Russell and Quinn picture in the top corner "arms race"
Nov 28, 2010 7:53pm
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Nov 28, 2010 9:51 PM
karen lotz;579605 wrote:Ohio State won 3 National Championships in the past decade? That's impressive!

The word you were looking for is "appearances."
Nov 28, 2010 9:51pm
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Nov 28, 2010 10:02 PM
Automatik;579950 wrote:The word you were looking for is "appearances."


Yeah you are right, I'm still looking for it.
Nov 28, 2010 10:02pm
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Nov 28, 2010 10:06 PM
KR1245;579618 wrote:haha. Laughing at the Russell and Quinn picture in the top corner "arms race"

LOL, i saw that too.
Nov 28, 2010 10:06pm
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Nov 28, 2010 10:45 PM
karen lotz;579605 wrote:Ohio State won 3 National Championships in the past decade? That's impressive!

Damnit, that was supposed to be appearances. Fixed it.
Nov 28, 2010 10:45pm
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Nov 29, 2010 10:34 AM
Speedofsand;579012 wrote:to a head coach position or other offer ? Seems like there will be plenty of openings now that the season is over. Florida's Dan McCarney is going to North Texas. I wish he was staying and a bunch of others leaving. I know there are better assistants available than Meyer had this year. Time to upgrade.
Speedofsand;579188 wrote:this thread is a good example of whats wrong with this site. There's always an asshat ruining the fun.

Lol, so the thread you started is what's wrong with this site?
Nov 29, 2010 10:34am
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Nov 29, 2010 10:46 AM
IMO, Fickell isn't leaving. Could he really go to some MAC or Big East school and learn more about head coaching instead of learning from one of the best coaches in the game?? Fickell only leaves if he is passed over for the HC spot when Tressel retires, and with Tress likely being part of the decision as to who is hired, Fickell probably has a pretty good shot at being the next coach at tOSU. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part, because he is one of the best recruiters in the game.
Nov 29, 2010 10:46am
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Nov 29, 2010 11:05 AM
se-alum;580407 wrote:IMO, Fickell isn't leaving. Could he really go to some MAC or Big East school and learn more about head coaching instead of learning from one of the best coaches in the game?? Fickell only leaves if he is passed over for the HC spot when Tressel retires, and with Tress likely being part of the decision as to who is hired, Fickell probably has a pretty good shot at being the next coach at tOSU. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part, because he is one of the best recruiters in the game.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but do we want someone coaching at OSU who has never been a head coach anywhere else?
Nov 29, 2010 11:05am
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Nov 29, 2010 11:27 AM
se-alum;580407 wrote:IMO, Fickell isn't leaving. Could he really go to some MAC or Big East school and learn more about head coaching instead of learning from one of the best coaches in the game?? Fickell only leaves if he is passed over for the HC spot when Tressel retires, and with Tress likely being part of the decision as to who is hired, Fickell probably has a pretty good shot at being the next coach at tOSU. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part, because he is one of the best recruiters in the game.
FatHobbit;580426 wrote:I don't disagree with what you're saying, but do we want someone coaching at OSU who has never been a head coach anywhere else?

I don't want someone who has no head coaching experience. We've seen time and time again throughout college football that guys who get promoted to being a head coach at a major program with no head coaching experience usually don't work out very well.

And to answer your original question se-alum, yes, I do that he could learn a lot by being a MAC head coach. Would he learn more than just by studying under Tressel? Not necessarily, but he would learn things that he can't under Tressel. There are somethings that you can really only learn by doing. It's one thing to have a guy explain to you how he coordinates recruiting or practice schedules, or to see how he manages a staff, but it's something else entirely to have to do it. It's different when you have a player sit in your office and talk about wanting to quit or transfer because he doesn't have enough playing time, or to get into an argument with an assistant who disagrees with a decision you made, or to have to deal with the media. There are a lot of things that a head coach can only really learn by doing, and I'd prefer that he not have to learn those things on the job at OSU. If he does, it could be bad for our football program. I'd rather see him go somewhere else and learn and make mistakes there, and then come back once he knows more of what it takes to be a head coach and once he's figured out what kind of head coach he is.
Nov 29, 2010 11:27am
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Nov 29, 2010 12:28 PM
Oh gosh, I hope Fickell doesn't become the head coach by default. That would be a monumental mistake on our part. Fickell needs to go the Dantonio route. Take a job at a mid-major build it up, win, and then maybe we can talk about him getting the Buckeye job
Nov 29, 2010 12:28pm
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Nov 29, 2010 12:35 PM
jordo212000;580564 wrote:Oh gosh, I hope Fickell doesn't become the head coach by default. That would be a monumental mistake on our part. Fickell needs to go the Dantonio route. Take a job at a mid-major build it up, win, and then maybe we can talk about him getting the Buckeye job

Agreed. I'll be pissed if at some point OSU names him (or anyone) the head-coach-in-waiting. I hope that when Tressel decides to retire (presumably when his contract is up after the 2016 season) that the university will perform their due diligence and bring in several coaches to interview. If they feel that Fickel is a capable candidate then let him go through that process as well. It might become very clear in those interviews that he is not cut out to be a head coach or that he is not ready to be the head coach at Ohio State. You want the best guy for the job, not the best guy who's been here.
Nov 29, 2010 12:35pm
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Nov 29, 2010 1:05 PM
I completely understand the apprehension with Fickell being the next coach. However, it's not unheard of that a first time head coach has great success. Look at Bob Stoops, after learning under Fry, Snyder, and Spurrier he comes in and wins a National Championship very quickly, and has had continued success. I do agree that he should have to interview, and go through the entire process. I will trust OSU to do the right thing, it's hard to argue with them after the successful hiring of Tress.
Nov 29, 2010 1:05pm
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Nov 29, 2010 1:06 PM
I think it's safe to say that Tressel will hand pick his next coach. Whether it's Fickell or not, no one knows.
Nov 29, 2010 1:06pm
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Nov 29, 2010 2:56 PM
Will Speilman put his name in for the job after Tress's time is up? There's no way he would get hired, but I could see him trying to be the head man in Columbus...
Nov 29, 2010 2:56pm
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Nov 29, 2010 3:02 PM
se-alum;580657 wrote:I completely understand the apprehension with Fickell being the next coach. However, it's not unheard of that a first time head coach has great success. Look at Bob Stoops, after learning under Fry, Snyder, and Spurrier he comes in and wins a National Championship very quickly, and has had continued success. I do agree that he should have to interview, and go through the entire process. I will trust OSU to do the right thing, it's hard to argue with them after the successful hiring of Tress.

I'm not saying that it can't work, I'm just saying that Stoops is the exception to the rule. There are many more examples of a top program hiring from within and it not working out well than there are of it being successful. It could work out great, but since it doesn't work out well more often than not, I'd rather hire someone with head coaching experience.
thedynasty1998;580658 wrote:I think it's safe to say that Tressel will hand pick his next coach. Whether it's Fickell or not, no one knows.
I think he may be involved in the process if he wants to be (although I'm not sure he'd want to be), but I don't think he'll hand pick the coach. No athletic director would give up that much control and do whatever the outgoing coach says no matter who that outgoing guy is.
Nov 29, 2010 3:02pm
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Nov 29, 2010 3:08 PM
zach24oz;580878 wrote:Will Speilman put his name in for the job after Tress's time is up? There's no way he would get hired, but I could see him trying to be the head man in Columbus...

He already tried that when they hired JT. I love Chris Spielman as a football player, but he flopped as a coach in the AFL. If he doesn't have any more experience than that, there's no way he should be hired at OSU.
Nov 29, 2010 3:08pm
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Nov 29, 2010 9:52 PM
FatHobbit;580397 wrote:Lol, so the thread you started is what's wrong with this site?

Not the original post, the bs posts that followed. When you grow up maybe you can go to college and learn reading comprehension.
Nov 29, 2010 9:52pm
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Nov 29, 2010 10:44 PM
I'm not sure I'd want Fickell either. Need someone with some Head Coaching experience.

I read somewhere where Tress has said he's not in this to be like JoePa. Some have speculated that here in 4 to 5 years he may call it quits and hang it up at OSU. We were discussing this this weekend, at who the next head coach would be, and a friend of mine speculated that OSU would make a play for 2 guys w/ Ohio ties: Urban Meyer, who was a graduate assistant at Ohio State, and Bob Stoops, who is from the Youngstown area. I don't know whether or not you could throw enough money at either of these two guys to get them to leave their current situations, but those were his thoughts.

I don't think OSU will ever hire from within. They could have done that in 2001 and hired Fred Pagac, who many people wanted to have the job, but went in another direction, one I'm not complaining about
Nov 29, 2010 10:44pm
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Nov 30, 2010 7:09 AM
I read on the Akron Zips board (yes, there is such a thing) from someone who worked in the athletic department that during their head coaching search last offseason Coach Tressel called and gave a recommendation for Luke Fickell. I guess he really wanted the Akron job but this person didn't know of an interview ever taking place.
Nov 30, 2010 7:09am
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Nov 30, 2010 7:41 AM
mucalum49;581698 wrote:I read on the Akron Zips board (yes, there is such a thing) from someone who worked in the athletic department that during their head coaching search last offseason Coach Tressel called and gave a recommendation for Luke Fickell. I guess he really wanted the Akron job but this person didn't know of an interview ever taking place.

wouldn't suprise me if it did happen, his name was really being kicked around for that job
Nov 30, 2010 7:41am
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Nov 30, 2010 9:27 AM
Fickell was actually at Akron before coming to Columbus, that's why I thought the would have got that job. Maybe he decided he didn't want it?

I think of all the people on the current staff Fickell is the only one that really makes sense as a coach in waiting. But this is Ohio State, and if the job opens up, they can get anyone they want for the most part. So I do think it would be a mistake to just give it to a coach in waiting rather than seeing who would be interested nationwide.
Nov 30, 2010 9:27am
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Nov 30, 2010 10:05 AM
Speedofsand;581350 wrote:Not the original post, the bs posts that followed. When you grow up maybe you can go to college and learn reading comprehension.

Maybe you should construct your posts so they are less ambiguous.
Nov 30, 2010 10:05am
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Nov 30, 2010 3:27 PM
I just heard on the radio that NBC is reporting that Fickell is the top choice at Indiana right now. I looked on NBC Sport's website but can't find anything on it.
Nov 30, 2010 3:27pm
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Nov 30, 2010 3:40 PM
krambman;582212 wrote:I just heard on the radio that NBC is reporting that Fickell is the top choice at Indiana right now. I looked on NBC Sport's website but can't find anything on it.

Crap. Now I might have to start rooting for Indiana.
Nov 30, 2010 3:40pm
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krambman;582212 wrote:I just heard on the radio that NBC is reporting that Fickell is the top choice at Indiana right now. I looked on NBC Sport's website but can't find anything on it.

I do not think this rumor is real. Someone falsly tweeted this info and it spread but the sources denied that it was true.
Dec 1, 2010 8:18am