Is it time for private schools to have theyre own playoffs in football

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Jan 23, 2012 6:51pm
sherm03;1062480 wrote:Don't forget schools like Poland, whose only State Championship victory came on the legs of a kid from Lowellville. Pretty impressive considering that Poland is not an open enrollment school.

How about Boardman raiding the Catholic grade schools for guys like Tommy Zetts and John Greco. Both were in the parochial feeder schools from K-8. But they both went to Boardman high school when it came time. Did anyone complain about that?

Maurice Clarett ring a bell anyone? Somehow he was able to play his freshman year at Fitch, and then play the next three years at Harding. I'm sure nothing fishy was going on there. And I'm sure Dayne Hammond's near transfer from Boardman to Harding was completely on the up-and-up.

The point of this post? Public schools get kids from outside their borders just like private schools do. As long as it's done within the rules, nobody should have a bitch about it.


Nice examples, now multiply those X 100, and we'll start calling them St. Boardman and Archbishop Warren.
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Jan 23, 2012 7:41pm
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Jan 23, 2012 7:45pm
Again....Benedictine.

In the 1980s, to adjust to new circumstances, the school developed an extensive bus system. The system allowed for young men from all over the Cleveland area to attend Benedictine.
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landshark0731
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Jan 23, 2012 7:45pm
skank;1063415 wrote:How is going 68-27 during that span, "not being able to beat publics."
In last 10 yrs all but 1 of your playoff losses have been to publics. Is that defined enough for you now? Now go spend time exposing big reds recruiting instead of focusing on private schools. Or are you afraid of big red exposing you in retaliation.
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Jan 23, 2012 7:56pm
landshark0731;1063458 wrote:In last 10 yrs all but 1 of your playoff losses have been to publics. Is that defined enough for you now? Now go spend time exposing big reds recruiting instead of focusing on private schools. Or are you afraid of big red exposing you in retaliation.


Ok, you know how to use Joe Eitels site.

Let me explain this to you one more time....I've been around for more than 10 years, I am not basing any of this on the last 10 years....Or the first 10 years. It's called the big picture.
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landshark0731
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Jan 23, 2012 8:02pm
skank;1063469 wrote:Ok, you know how to use Joe Eitels site.

Let me explain this to you one more time....I've been around for more than 10 years, I am not basing any of this on the last 10 years....Or the first 10 years. It's called the big picture.
No it's called the so called unfair competitive advantage that people like you believe the private schools have. I am just pointing out the obvious , this is the here and now and the most recent results should be taken into consideration. You have lost to publics in the playoffs in the here and now.
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Thinthickbigred
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Jan 23, 2012 8:29pm
landshark0731;1063473 wrote:No it's called the so called unfair competitive advantage that people like you believe the private schools have. I am just pointing out the obvious , this is the here and now and the most recent results should be taken into consideration. You have lost to publics in the playoffs in the here and now.
Hey landshark im here lets meet whats up
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Jan 23, 2012 8:31pm
The...."so called unfair competative advantage?"

That...."People like me believe private schools have?"

First of all, just because MASSILLON has lost to public schools, in your, "here and now", doesn't mean a thing.

If this, "SO CALLED" unfair competative advantage didn't exist, would the OHSAA be looking to make adjustments to the system? Do you think they have nothing better to do?

Also, you speak of the,"here and now", and you feel strongly about, "recent results being taken into consideration"?

You want, "recent events taken into consideration?" Is that what you want? How about these "recent events"?

In fourteen (14), public vs Private matchups in the Division I State Semi finals since 1999, and through 2011, privates hold an 11-3 lead.

Now....Let's move forward into more of your, "here and now", diatribe, shall we?

Again, from '99 through '11, there have been six (6), public vs private matchups in Division I State Championship games, guess what....Privates hold a 6-0 lead.

You're right....I kinda like this new, "here and now" rule.

P.S. If you would like me to provide more stats to support your new, "here and now" rule, simply let me know.
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Jan 23, 2012 8:40pm
If you had joined sooner, you would have seem my post providing every DI playoff game EVER involving public vs private....It was quite shocking I tell you.
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Jan 23, 2012 8:42pm
Wait, I just thought of something....Why don't we just get our public school kids to "try harder", and to "work harder in the off season." :rolleyes:
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Rocket08
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Jan 23, 2012 8:47pm
That would be a start

But at your school you just need to hope most of them graduate

That's the challenge you need to worry about
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Jan 23, 2012 8:52pm
Rocket08;1063504 wrote:That would be a start

But at your school you just need to hope most of them graduate

That's the challenge you need to worry about


I think you're looking for the academic thread, judging from EVERY post of yours that I have read....I hope you find it soon.
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landshark0731
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Jan 23, 2012 11:07pm
Thinthickbigred;1063486 wrote:Hey landshark im here lets meet whats up
Lol . Typical response Thick . Didn't you just ask Darcon to meet you? Do you have a man fetish? Just because your getting your ass handed to you in a debate you want to resort to violence. But hey what do we expect , the crime rate in the ville is hideous , guess its the mentality there if your proved wrong just punch your way right!
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landshark0731
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Jan 23, 2012 11:13pm
skank;1063498 wrote:Wait, I just thought of something....Why don't we just get our public school kids to "try harder", and to "work harder in the off season." :rolleyes:

Baby steps Skank! Let's work on beating the publics first , then maybe you'll get a crack at a private if they win also.
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Rocket08
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Jan 24, 2012 8:43am
landshark0731;1063587 wrote:Baby steps Skank! Let's work on beating the publics first , then maybe you'll get a crack at a private if they win also.
This ^
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Jan 24, 2012 9:30am
Rocket08;1063504 wrote:That would be a start

But at your school you just need to hope most of them graduate

That's the challenge you need to worry about


THIS
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Jan 24, 2012 9:32am
landshark0731;1063575 wrote:Lol . Typical response Thick . Didn't you just ask Darcon to meet you? Do you have a man fetish? Just because your getting your ass handed to you in a debate you want to resort to violence. But hey what do we expect , the crime rate in the ville is hideous , guess its the mentality there if your proved wrong just punch your way right!


And THIS,

Have nothing to do with public vs private.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:33am
landshark0731;1063587 wrote:Baby steps Skank! Let's work on beating the publics first , then maybe you'll get a crack at a private if they win also.


Nice....Any response to privates going 17-3 in State Semi's and State Finals though?
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Jan 24, 2012 12:20pm
landshark0731;1063587 wrote:Baby steps Skank! Let's work on beating the publics first , then maybe you'll get a crack at a private if they win also.


Maybe we WON'T get a shot at a private....If things are handled correctly by the OHSAA.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:32pm
They will be and there won't be any change. But you guys will stilll get knocked out by public schools that's if you make it.
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Jan 24, 2012 6:47pm
A.) St. Ignatius
B.) St. Edward
C.) Cardinal Mooney
D.) Ursuline
E.) Moeller
F.) St. Xavier



Which one of these schools will win the services of David Sills now that Red Lion Christian Academy is shutting down the machine?
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Jan 24, 2012 7:09pm
rmolin73;1064281 wrote:They will be and there won't be any change. But you guys will stilll get knocked out by public schools that's if you make it.


Since we're on the public/parochial thread, I think your big concern should be getting your AD to sack up a little. In the last 10 years, Massillon has played, Ignatius 8 times....St. Edward 2 times....Elder 1 time....Moeller 1 time....Benedictine 2 times....Ursuline 2 times....DCJ 1 time....And Hoban 1 time.

YOUR school....In the same 10 year span, has scheduled ONE (1), PAROCHIAL, 3 times, Toledo St. Francis. THREE times in ten years your school has played a parochial. Your AD, or coach, or whoever it may be, HAS NO BALLS.

I've seem your schedule, it's laughable. As weak as I, and everyone in Massillon think OUR schedule was this past year, yours was worse. Massillons opponents went 60-44, Southviews? 48-54.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:18pm
skank;1064524 wrote:Since we're on the public/parochial thread, I think your big concern should be getting your AD to sack up a little. In the last 10 years, Massillon has played, Ignatius 8 times....St. Edward 2 times....Elder 1 time....Moeller 1 time....Benedictine 2 times....Ursuline 2 times....DCJ 1 time....And Hoban 1 time.

YOUR school....In the same 10 year span, has scheduled ONE (1), PAROCHIAL, 3 times, Toledo St. Francis. THREE times in ten years your school has played a parochial. Your AD, or coach, or whoever it may be, HAS NO BALLS.

I've seem your schedule, it's laughable. As weak as I, and everyone in Massillon think OUR schedule was this past year, yours was worse. Massillons opponents went 60-44, Southviews? 48-54.
This years schedule has Toledo St. Johns, Toledo Central Catholic, and Toledo St. Francis. If you knew anything about our coach he is not afraid to play anyone and he has an ego to a fault. Our AD now that's a different story. But guess what we aren't complaining about seperating the playoffs or who we win or lose to you are. We have also beat Akron Hoban on our way to a state title on your field. It hurts I know. Maybe if you all weren't a one trick pony with no tricks you wouldn't be so hell bent on having seperate playoffs. We have state titles in other sports as well. If our schedule was so weak how did we finish as the #4 seed? While you all were 12th?
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Con_Alma
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Jan 25, 2012 6:31am
skank;1064498 wrote:A.) St. Ignatius
B.) St. Edward
C.) Cardinal Mooney
D.) Ursuline
E.) Moeller
F.) St. Xavier



Which one of these schools will win the services of David Sills now that Red Lion Christian Academy is shutting down the machine?
Whatever one he chooses...as it should be.

Noo one owns the kid. He should be able to go wherever he wants.
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Jan 25, 2012 9:41am
Con_Alma;1064822 wrote:Whatever one he chooses...as it should be.

Noo one owns the kid. He should be able to go wherever he wants.


I agree....But the schools listed should not be able to have a bidding war for him. Will the OHSAA allow him to "rent" an apartment near Ignatius High School should he choose them? Will the OHSAA allow him to live in one of the coaches houses should he choose Moeller?