osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Dec 11, 2010 9:25pm
Celtics make it 10 Straight wins w/ a 93-62 beat down @ Charlotte even with Pierce & Ray Allen going a combined 5/20 from the field
next game for them could be a huge one -- Wednesday night @ NY Knicks
next game for them could be a huge one -- Wednesday night @ NY Knicks
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 11, 2010 11:13pm
Looks like your namesake might be headed to Memphis with Andy Rautins in a deal for Mayo. Granted its from a Knicks blog, I read it on hoopsworld.com so there is has to be some sort of merit to the rumor.Azubuike24;596629 wrote:It has nothing to do with Turner being horrible or Favors being great.
My point is, the Sixers didn't need to take another wing.
Whether Favors and Turner have equal value in 2 years (I don't believe they will anyway), I'd rather have the post player.
BTW, Favors is not 19 years and 5 months old while Evan Turner is 22. As far as potential goes, Favors has more. As for Favors being undersized, maybe he is physique-wise, but he's as tall and long as Dwight Howard and I'd say he's a pretty good center...
http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/12/11/knicks-interested-in-o-j-mayo/
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 12, 2010 12:12am
SportsAndLady;596359 wrote:The point was you're labeling turner as a bust after one fourth of a season...Meeks is proving your rookie year isn't an indication of how good a player you are
Azubuike24;596629 wrote:BTW, Favors is not 19 years and 5 months old while Evan Turner is 22. As far as potential goes, Favors has more.
Both very good points
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 12, 2010 12:21am
Cavs fall 110-95. Zanesville native Kevin Martin lit up the Cavs for 40. The Rockets hit 12 3's. Jamison had 24 points and Hickson is pissed at Byron Scott. What a fun season this continues to be.
Cavs are taking their talents to South Beach on Wednesday.
Cavs are taking their talents to South Beach on Wednesday.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 12, 2010 12:51am
Is this happens, it will make the Knicks a top 4-5 team in the East and a threat to make the East Finals IMO.It has nothing to do with Turner being horrible or Favors being great.
My point is, the Sixers didn't need to take another wing.
Whether Favors and Turner have equal value in 2 years (I don't believe they will anyway), I'd rather have the post player.
BTW, Favors is not 19 years and 5 months old while Evan Turner is 22. As far as potential goes, Favors has more. As for Favors being undersized, maybe he is physique-wise, but he's as tall and long as Dwight Howard and I'd say he's a pretty good center...
Looks like your namesake might be headed to Memphis with Andy Rautins in a deal for Mayo. Granted its from a Knicks blog, I read it on hoopsworld.com so there is has to be some sort of merit to the rumor.
http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/12/11/knicks-interested-in-o-j-mayo/
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 13, 2010 1:14am
wildcats20;597004 wrote:Is this happens, it will make the Knicks a top 4-5 team in the East and a threat to make the East Finals IMO.
Just heard Rob Parker(occasionally appears on ESPN's First Take/1st and 10) on Detroit's NBC say that the Knicks are also looking at Tayshaun Prince but a deal probably wont go down until the Pistons are sold. They wany him for his play and the fact that he has an expiring contract.
Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Dec 13, 2010 1:46am
PG - Raymond Felton
SG - Ovinton J'Anthony Mayo
SF - Danilo Gallinari
PF - Wilson Chandler
C - Amare Stoudemire
Imagine if they could Carmelo this season too...
SG - Ovinton J'Anthony Mayo
SF - Danilo Gallinari
PF - Wilson Chandler
C - Amare Stoudemire
Imagine if they could Carmelo this season too...
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 13, 2010 1:50am
Man, Harden put someone on the Cavs on a poster. I think it was Hickson, the highlight is comin up in the top 10 so i'll see
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 13, 2010 1:54am
PG - Felton/Fields/MasonLeonardo;598752 wrote:PG - Raymond Felton
SG - Ovinton J'Anthony Mayo
SF - Danilo Gallinari
PF - Wilson Chandler
C - Amare Stoudemire
Imagine if they could Carmelo this season too...
SG - OJ/Mason/Douglas
SF - Carmelo/Prince/Walker
PF -Chandler/Turiaf
C - Amare/Mozgov
My guess is that if they got Carmelo, Gallinari would be gone.
In-Mayo/Prince/Anthony
Out-Gallinari,Azubuike,Rautins, Curry,Randolph possibly Mozgov
Would be nice to see Mayo and Walker teaming again.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 13, 2010 1:59am
Ouch.....Ouch...Ouch...Get out of the way JJ.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 13, 2010 2:03am
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Ouch......................Move out of the damn way JJ.
Ouch......................Move out of the damn way JJ.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 13, 2010 2:03am
Hb31187;598755 wrote:Man, Harden put someone on the Cavs on a poster. I think it was Hickson, the highlight is comin up in the top 10 so i'll see
Took me forever to remember how to embed videos so I didnt see your post.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Dec 13, 2010 7:19am
Looks like the only team that Melo will sign an extension with is the Knicks......Nuggets are in a bad position.
I think the owners are going to try to put an end to this nonsense. Theres going to be a lockout, I just dont see any way around it.
I think the owners are going to try to put an end to this nonsense. Theres going to be a lockout, I just dont see any way around it.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 13, 2010 9:24am
That gives all the power to the Knicks. They don't have to give Denver what they want, as they can just wait until after the season and sign him. If I were the Knicks there is no way I part with Gallinari.
Amare continues to impress! And to think that the Cavs didn't want to include Hickson in a deal for him last year. Amare has proven himself as a top player in the NBA and Hickson has proven to be an average player. (and I'm not trolling)
Amare continues to impress! And to think that the Cavs didn't want to include Hickson in a deal for him last year. Amare has proven himself as a top player in the NBA and Hickson has proven to be an average player. (and I'm not trolling)
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 13, 2010 1:46pm
KR1245;598783 wrote:Looks like the only team that Melo will sign an extension with is the Knicks......Nuggets are in a bad position.
I think the owners are going to try to put an end to this nonsense. Theres going to be a lockout, I just dont see any way around it.
I dunno how they could put an end to it though, cant force players to sign with teams of the owners choosing
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 13, 2010 1:54pm
So you want NBA contracts to include non-compete clauses?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 13, 2010 2:04pm
I don't think O.J. Mayo comes close to making the Knicks a threat in the east. He's nothing more than an average player, and he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 13, 2010 2:49pm
Mulva;599387 wrote:I don't think O.J. Mayo comes close to making the Knicks a threat in the east. He's nothing more than an average player, and he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA.
His production has decreased every year since his rookie year, in which he showed a lot of potential. At this point, yes, I would say he's average. But he has all the tools you look for and maybe a change in scenery brings out his potential.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 13, 2010 6:06pm
Lol put an end to what? If melo doesn't want to resign, why should the owners have a say in it?KR1245;598783 wrote:Looks like the only team that Melo will sign an extension with is the Knicks......Nuggets are in a bad position.
I think the owners are going to try to put an end to this nonsense. Theres going to be a lockout, I just dont see any way around it.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Dec 13, 2010 8:26pm
I just dont like the path that the NBA is headed.
Took this post from RCF. Basically sums up my thoughts
The players aren't going to have much of a say in it. The owners are the ones signing the paychecks and I'm pretty sure every one of them that isn't located in LA/New York/Miami/Chicago etc. is going to come into the CBA meetings fuming mad. It's pretty clear that being able to offer a player an extra year and more money isn't enough to keep small market teams in the game so it'll have to change, whether it's to a franchise tag system, stricter cap or whatever.
Regardless, 80% of the owners are getting the royal shaft and a few big name players are running the league. Those owners simply will not let it continue and if locking the league out is the only way to avoid this big city monopoly path to a shitty, top-heavy league, then so be it.
Took this post from RCF. Basically sums up my thoughts
The players aren't going to have much of a say in it. The owners are the ones signing the paychecks and I'm pretty sure every one of them that isn't located in LA/New York/Miami/Chicago etc. is going to come into the CBA meetings fuming mad. It's pretty clear that being able to offer a player an extra year and more money isn't enough to keep small market teams in the game so it'll have to change, whether it's to a franchise tag system, stricter cap or whatever.
Regardless, 80% of the owners are getting the royal shaft and a few big name players are running the league. Those owners simply will not let it continue and if locking the league out is the only way to avoid this big city monopoly path to a shitty, top-heavy league, then so be it.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 13, 2010 9:36pm
You cant make players sign where they dont want to. If they sign for less money and team up with eachother, theres little to nothing Owners can do about it
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 13, 2010 10:12pm
Yeah I mean look at English premiere league soccer, the top players all play together....it's not like this is unheard of in sports. You can't force someone to play for a team he doesn't want to when he's earned the rights to pick whichever team he desires (and I'm a cavs fan, so I COULD feel the exact opposite haha).
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 13, 2010 10:18pm
Hb31187;599996 wrote:You cant make players sign where they dont want to. If they sign for less money and team up with each other, there's little to nothing Owners can do about it
Not directly, but they could go to a hard cap and eliminate mid-level exceptions and bullshit like that. It would make it financially impossible for more than 2 stars to go to the same team, unless they all literally took several million less per year, which isn't going to happen.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 13, 2010 10:23pm
A good portion of these stars' income comes from sources other than their salary. I think you could see someone like Carmelo taking several million less per year in their salary, in order to play in ny. Were at a point where these guys are starting to REALLY care about championships, and not so much their salary.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 13, 2010 10:34pm
Plus, in NYC he is going to more than make-up for missing out on a max deal by advertising etc from any city other than maybe LA or Chicago.