2quik4u;542031 wrote:almost as bad as sideshow bob getting 60 mil
wildcats20;542770 wrote:I think your Most Improved Player will be coming from Cleveland in JJ Hickson if he continues to play the way he has this year.
Laley23;542118 wrote:He was drafted 4th overall and has averaged 10.9 ppg, 4.7 apg, and 2.8 rpg. That is underachieving at its finest! No one in the world is spending a 4th overall pick for those numbers.
HOWEVER....he is only 23 and looks to be turning the corner, so he can eliminate the bust talk and make himself worthy of the lofty expectations and pick. But thus far...how has he not been an underachiever?
Tell that to the team who drafted him 4th. They didnt draft him for 5 apg and to be a back-up. I said underacheiving to this point, but he is still young and this year, thus far, he is putting up numbers which would lead you to believe he is becoming worthy of a top 4 spot.jordo212000;542879 wrote:He is a PG. Few PGs score 20+ PPG, so it is kind of unrealistic to expect Conley to be a scorer. Each year his PPG have gone up though. Last year he averaged 12 with 5 assists and thus far he is getting 15 ppg. Definitely not Hall of Fame numbers but definitely not very "bust-like." Furthermore he isn't underachieving because he is doing what myself and many others thought he'd do: scoring 10-15 ppg, getting some assists, and being a pretty good leader at the point. You don't watch the NBA/NCAA if you expected much more than what he is currently doing
When were Conley and Randy Foye on the TWolves together?Laley23;542903 wrote:Tell that to the team who drafted him 4th. They didnt draft him for 5 apg and to be a back-up. I said underacheiving to this point, but he is still young and this year, thus far, he is putting up numbers which would lead you to believe he is becoming worthy of a top 4 spot.
NO ONE expected D. Heyward-Bey to be good, and ridiculed the Raiders. But he is still a bust because of where he was taken.
I dont expect Conley to light the world on fire scoring. But I expect him to get about 14 a game and close to double digit assists a game.
For comparisons sake of recent PGs taken very early.
Tyreke Evans (better)
Derek Rose (better)
Brandon Jennings (better)
Steph Curry (better)
Randy Foye (not better per se, but won the starting nob over him when they were on the T-Wolves)
Again, Conley can prove to be worthy, but thus far, he has vastly underachieved for the 4th overall pick in the draft.
trep14;542910 wrote:When were Conley and Randy Foye on the TWolves together?
The Grizzlies don't seem to be too disappointed with Conley, considering that extension they just gave him. Also, Conley has looked really good this year so far, maybe this is the year he really breaks through.
None of that matters. He was taken 4th. His stats dont warrant it.jordo212000;542923 wrote:Look at who was drafted after him there chief. The Grizzlies picked him because there wasn't much else out there. Yeah those other PGs are better than Conley, but the only problem is... they couldn't draft any of those guys in the Conley draft.
Look who was taken after him Jeff Green (career 14ppg good player), Yi (crap), Corey Brewer (crap), Joakim Noah (should have been taken higher), and then after that guys who aren't either much better than Conley or are worse than Conley. Green and Noah both are better players than Conley right now, but it looks like Conley would still be a top 10 pick if you were to do a redraft. Let's not pretend that the NBA Draft is full of great young talent. It is mostly a crap shoot after the top 10 or so
jordo212000;542881 wrote:Where is tonight's Hawks-Cavs in game thread?
Laley23;542932 wrote:None of that matters. He was taken 4th. His stats dont warrant it.
BTW, in that draft alone, 3 PGs stick out as better. Fernandez, Brooks, and Stuckey
Laley23;542932 wrote:None of that matters. He was taken 4th. His stats dont warrant it.
BTW, in that draft alone, 3 PGs stick out as better. Fernandez, Brooks, and Stuckey
jordo212000;542952 wrote:What did you want the Grizz to do? Forfeit the pick because there wasn't somebody there that was worthy of being a #4 pick?
I'm not sure I can take your opinion seriously as you thought Conley played for the T'wolves at some point.
Aaron Brooks I will give you. Stuckey has a career average of 13 ppg so I would be inclined to call that a wash... but Fernandez? Seriously hahahaha
Hb31187;542950 wrote:Al thorton, Thadeus young, Joakim Noah, Jeff Green, Aaron Brooks, Aaron Affalo(stretch), Carl Landry, Glen Davis, Rodney Stuckey, Marc Gasol
Theres 10 players you could argue that are better, that were picked after Conley.
Hb31187;542961 wrote:Most people on here agree that Conleys production thus far doesnt live up to his draft position...but I mean i am arguign with an OSU avatar so...