thedynasty1998;540764 wrote:The Sanchez comment was stupid. Plus his receivers played very poorly.
Didn't get to watch the SF game, so I can't really comment on Smith, but I did see the highlights and he looks small.
thedynasty1998;540802 wrote:Alex Smith is done. I was really surprised with Smith's day considering the circumstances.
What I've always found a little ironic is that Troy Smith is "small" for NFL standards, yet it's not a problem in college. At a school like OSU that runs a pro style system, you would think that if he can be successful at the college level, it would translate to the NFL, but NFL guys think you have to prove it all over again. It's not like NFL offensive and defensive lineman are any taller than college.
Manhattan Buckeye;540803 wrote:^^^ As a corollary. The Sanchez comment wasn't stupid. He's 24th in passer rating with a heckuva lot of team around him and a fantastic defense that allows him a nice comfort zone. This is a team that was designed to go all the way, and even during Sanchez' good games he floats easy passes and its obvious they don't trust him to make plays.
lhslep134;540804 wrote:Dynasty, it's more of the fact that no team Troy Smith faced will be as big as an entire NFL defense, even if he happens to face a defense with some future NFL players (best example: 2006 Michigan with Branch and Woodley). So while Troy might face some 6'3 270 Dlinemen in college, he faces an entire defensive front of them in the NFL.
thedynasty1998;540811 wrote:I understand that, but I would imagine the bigger difference between college and pro is more so speed than heighth.
lhslep134;540816 wrote:Speed too, but the reason QB's are judged on height is their ability to see over and through the O-line and D-line. I'd think the speed difference is offset by the offensive speed too.
A Steelers team that had a playoff spot wrapped up and sat the majority of their starters for that game. Nice try!Y-Town Steelhound;540735 wrote:You mean like he did against the Steelers a few years ago the last time he started a game (and also won it)? Your act is becoming a bit tiring. Still don't know what that word is
rock_knutne;541794 wrote:A Steelers team that had a playoff spot wrapped up and sat the majority of their starters for that game. Nice try!
Y-Town Steelhound;541911 wrote:Sorry but last I checked Dick Lebeau (one of the greatest defensive minds in the HISTORY of the NFL) was still calling the plays. As long as that was happening, it doesn't matter who was on the field (see Porter, Joey). Nice Try!
rock_knutne;541946 wrote:LMFAO........just like how the Colts fold like an old dish rag when they sit Peyton Manning after a playoff birth has been locked up? Coaches are only as good as the players they field, ultimately, the players win the game, especially ones that have been on the field all year. Get a clue.
rock_knutne;541967 wrote:^^^^Most of those guys played a quarter, maybe half the game tops. Roethlisberger didn't play at all but that didn't make a difference.:rolleyes: As for Polamalu, look what happened to the Steeler defense when he was out most of last year......one great player makes a huge difference on either side of the ball. Again, get a clue!
Thank you very much!grodt;541999 wrote:The Steelers D is completely different without Polamalu. A lot of what LeBeau does and is successful with takes advantage of his play making ability. The drop of to the second string changes the dynamic of that defense. They are still a very good defense without him, but nowhere close to elite.
Y-Town Steelhound;541975 wrote:Oh, I didn't know Roethlisberger played defense or that Troy Smith played defense. Besides, as we saw this year...the Steelers didn't skip much of a beat without him.
As for Polamalu, yea he's a great player....but great defenses overcome the loss of one or two great players. (Again, see Porter, Joey.) There have been great steeler defenses for a while now and the common factor is Dick LeBeau. I don't care if Polamalu, Harrison, and whoever is out there.....If LeBeau isn't calling the plays/scheming that Steeler defense is NOWHERE near as good. He's a bigger asset than a safety. Sounds like you're the one that needs a clue
rock_knutne;542016 wrote:Singing another tune when I brought up Big Ben aren't you? Didn't you say sitting a great QB makes a big difference? Please, stop with "it's all about Lebeau"! To a certain extent LeBeau's scheme's and ability to dial up that zone blitz is a huge factor but the scheme is only as good as the players who are on the field executing it. Again, get a fucking clue!
Fair enough, and you might be right. But the Steelers defense he DID face was better than a lot of "starting" NFL defenses so you can't really disregard the performance.....and don't try to play the "they didn't try card". It was Baltimore-Pittsburgh.rock_knutne;542165 wrote:If Troy Smith had to play against the entire starting Steeler defense for 60 minutes, I can guarantee you the outcome would have been very different, even with Ben on the bench.
