sjmvsfscs08;531773 wrote: I think Auburn and Boise State are the best two teams in the country. Oregon got handled last season by a Boise State team that returned 21/22 starters, I hope they meet in the national championship. Lord knows, if Ohio State and Michigan were #1/#2 a year after Ohio State stomped them and returned 21/22 starters, they wouldn't worry all season because they'd think they were the better team too. I think the only argument an Oregon fan has is that LaMichael James wasn't the star in that game last season, and it's a big argument.

sjmvsfscs08;532341 wrote:Believe me, I understand what you're saying. More times than not, I agree with you too. But 21/22 starts is just a mind-numbing statistic for me. They return their entire team, literally, from a 13-0 squad and are still getting shit on? Oh but excuse me, "they don't play teams week-to-week." People need to stop that talk now, especially Buckeye fans whose schedule has consisted of Miami bookended with Marshall/Ohio, Wisconsin bookended with Big ten cellar dwellers, and Iowa bookended with a mediocre Penn State team and Michigan. They have exactly one tough two game period on the schedule. Unless you play in the SEC, you don't often have to "face the grind" like teams accuse Boise State of not doing.

cats gone wild;532415 wrote:Am I the only one that thinks MSU is not worth ANY hype at all? Its not like they can be tons better than last year. Its schedule strength and barely getting by teams on trick plays. They are not a top 10 team.

cats gone wild;532415 wrote:Am I the only one that thinks MSU is not worth ANY hype at all? Its not like they can be tons better than last year. Its schedule strength and barely getting by teams on trick plays. They are not a top 10 team.

-Society-;532434 wrote:I guess we found out LSU wasn't worth the hype.

cats gone wild;532415 wrote:Am I the only one that thinks MSU is not worth ANY hype at all? Its not like they can be tons better than last year. Its schedule strength and barely getting by teams on trick plays. They are not a top 10 team.

Cleveland Buck;532387 wrote:The difference is that Illinois, Wisconsin, Penn State, Iowa, and Michigan are better than anyone Boise will play in conference. Wisconsin, Iowa, and possible Miami are better than anyone Boise will have played all year. Purdue and Indiana are better than every WAC team except for Boise State and Nevada. Because you say they suck does not make it fact. Look at the Purdue game last year to see what happens in the Big Ten if you sleepwalk into a conference game. Do you think if Boise came out flat that they could lose to New Mexico State or Idaho? They could play their backups the whole game and win by 30. Boise doesn't even have to gameplan to beat their conference opponents.

-Society-;532434 wrote:I guess we found out LSU wasn't worth the hype.

sjmvsfscs08;532507 wrote:Hawai'i is better than Indiana and Purdue. Purdue, since losing their QB and WR, is freakin' terrible. Boise State's Virginia Tech win may be better than Miami, we shall see. Oregon State was very solid before unfortunate injuries. Nevada is solid, Hawaii's offense is verrrry good. Now I'm in no way saying Boise State's schedule is better than Ohio State's Big Ten schedule, but I do think Boise State could blow out Purdue, Indiana, Minnesota, Marshall, Ohio, etc just like Ohio State did. It's very arguable they'd be undefeated at this point, since the common opponent with Wisconsin Boise State raped and Wisconsin has issues with. If Virginia Tech beats Miami it only helps Boise State's argument in this case.

enigmaax;532516 wrote:Wait, didn't Purdue beat Northwestern, who was undefeated at the time, without their QB?

And if Hawaii is so good, and they're so much better than Purdue, why'd they lose to habitual bottom dweller Colorado so soundly?

sjmvsfscs08;531773 wrote:1a- Auburn
1b- Boise State
3- Oregon
4- Texas Christian


5- Missouri

6- Utah
7- Michigan State

I think Auburn and Boise State are the best two teams in the country. Oregon got handled last season by a Boise State team that returned 21/22 starters, I hope they meet in the national championship. Lord knows, if Ohio State and Michigan were #1/#2 a year after Ohio State stomped them and returned 21/22 starters, they wouldn't worry all season because they'd think they were the better team too. I think the only argument an Oregon fan has is that LaMichael James wasn't the star in that game last season, and it's a big argument.

Texas Christian has looked more impressive in their games against common opponents than the traditional Big XII powers have. They are tough as shit, but also lost to Boise State last season.

Auburn looks good, but I think the SEC is pretty overrated this season. Cam Newton is a G, on more than one level, and their victories are credible. I'm just not completely sold.

cats gone wild;532415 wrote:Am I the only one that thinks MSU is not worth ANY hype at all? .

sjmvsfscs08;532523 wrote:Because they're college kids and often inconsistent.? Besides, Northwestern beat Minnesota the previous week by one point, Central Michigan before that by five, and Vanderbilt in the opener by two; hardly what saying "an undefeated team" insinuates. I think Hawaii beats Purdue though more times than not, I think their aerial attack would have the Boilermakers beat.

enigmaax;532598 wrote:Wow, I mean that mean green passin machine that put up nearly half of their season yards in three wins against teams with a combined 7 wins on the season. Yep, they sure are inconsistent. So wouldn't consistently winning mean a lot more than inconsistently winning and losing?

sjmvsfscs08;532658 wrote:Agree to disagree, okay? They won't play each other so it's moot. Ohio State's Big ten schedule isn't much to brag about, just admit it.